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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298335 Archived-At: Hi Eli, * Gregor Zattler [2022-10-23; 19:08 +02]: [...] > I did > > find "/home/grfz/.config/emacs/eln-cache/" "/home/grfz/src/emacs-master-= next/native-lisp/" -type f | xargs -r ls -Altr > /tmp/before > > > > while sleep 1 ; do ps -eo pid,tty,stat,user,group,etime,time,cgroup,args= fax >> faxme; done # while emacs started > > find "/home/grfz/.config/emacs/eln-cache/" "/home/grfz/src/emacs-master-= next/native-lisp/" -type f | xargs -r ls -Altr > /tmp/before arhgs, that should have been: find "/home/grfz/.config/emacs/eln-cache/" "/home/grfz/src/emacs-master-ne= xt/native-lisp/" -type f | xargs -r ls -Altr > /tmp/after > now > > $ diff -aNur before after > $ > > --> No new .eln files were written. > > > But file faxme contains 280 lines like this: > > /home/grfz/src/emacs-master-next/src/emacs --batch -l /tmp/emacs-async-c= omp-cl-lib-7Go9da.el > > > > 0 grfz@no:/tmp$ grep -o 'emacs-async-comp-.*' faxme | cut -d - -f 4- | s= ed -e "s/-[^-]*\.el$//" |sort -u | while read ; do grep -qs $REPLY before = || echo $REPLY; done > 0 grfz@no:/tmp$ > > > So all these "emacs-async-comp-cl-lib-7Go9da.el" like files > have corresponding files in the .eln cache. > > Is it possible that it takes 150 secs to test the .eln cache? I assumed this is only a test of mtime of files? Ciao; Gregor