From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package "luwak" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:34:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87h6xxacuw.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87k02ws0pd.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30493"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 22:35:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ZPX-0007gH-Hj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:35:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ZOi-0004FL-Rv; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:34:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ZOg-0004Ey-Oq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:34:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ZOa-0007qr-86 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:34:34 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2573240109 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:34:29 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1671053670; bh=KgjKh02v54KsWXiifT7E2GJge0tJ4d0kJYsUpZFAuPE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=pWdUdiboS/1S3BJaniT1kPab/VCqG3So64IrF36cCyXu2ZudMkjjOC1Ahou2h2NB1 aavi2DoOiU0Qy1Eycx+FqKJsJR6XCw91O7p6s4oeKVR1uLsWMKxEgRLvut/PCGoH7s B51HJetOyolgNe4SswgCwp2nsCDUgqRSeUB9rx0Pl4oxHvvZxFU/cS568Icl6fm9kD U378crhzVt3p8Hiq7w9Fs5W+EhboG6WE1CMZGlIUEDsO+CMcIoZ05hiQmAl/gOoyaz kBJD5buciTWSJUlMfVc5yQy5w7po16rwn4AmYNIZYzsEQ4ez8fOe5Jr8bn7G9Zp7tb pQL0d1jctPWqA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NXTCS4ylgz6trr; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:34:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:58:48 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301416 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > That could be so -- I don't have a conclusion -- but name calling > (like "a modern user") doesn't prove it. I can assure you that "modern user" wasn't meant to be a form of name calling, just a reference to the fact that most people, even Emacs users have at best little experience with text-based browsers. > > If this is to be resolved in the long term, I think a naming > > guideline > > or recommendations (for ELPA) should be written down. > > To establish a guideline is a good idea. The way to come up with a > good guideline is based on some examples. Thus, I think it is useful > to discuss this example and handle it in a good way. That will get us > started on more general guidelines. Do you have a few examples?