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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7e0427f2e1b944f290a78ca95a6d700f; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 00:58:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <121acd3282a64abf77d6@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 17 Jun 2023 23:16:10 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21557 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.199; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic301-30.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306900 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > Indeed. There is another data point that should, I believe, be > mentioned: users who want to run Emacs on an Android device can > already do so, with both its TUI and GUI, without any changes > whatsoever on the Emacs side. See for instance this five years old > Reddit post: > https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/9m76ak/termux_package_emacsx/. That > post mentions the "XServer XSDL" X server; a year later the Termux > folks started the development of their own X server implementation for > Android, Termux:X11. That's adequate to the same extent that Cygwin/X is adequate for running Emacs. Or actually much less adequate, seeing as that X server doesn't support input methods, clipboard data other than text, or touch screen devices. Try to scroll a window without a keyboard or mouse wheel. Also, that build is more or less broken: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/issues/10083