From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 08:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <87h6okga15.fsf@localhost> References: <83msyemjx8.fsf@gnu.org> <871qfpoij6.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs45ivyo.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4649"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jemarch@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 10:33:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaBD4-0000xE-SC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:33:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaBCO-00053B-33; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 04:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaBCL-00052q-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 04:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaBCA-0003D7-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 04:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E006A240028 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:32:28 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1693125148; bh=F3C3G8QiiPkBRihQihProIfMDKHXDfrewhkPxeS1GOI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=S/G7yFlYAw4SbeNxoUR8ThMDtDG3k1GTGpxZiMzec1yQ2ro2qdoum2EmppU6pxEt2 BefPJGKWwECqzQ1BgqhUgwdJHv4UqT4tIOqUn6nyOgPrjjr2+TbGQlVPNQt9x7lZKA snf4rA7wGW37jIoG1OLSSFMAbEq98uuRpnZ2CZGW/Ss3LFzW7VUZ1A9xRHSL3SgKVu FCliKV9BjIMnqb9AdSn2HbZany8aPvuTWEbHvaq6mSUVUhQZ8kD3CV+lApI+Npteds yYlF5dWWBdMdU2uzvAu24CaxAafn5Q/oN/1TAi/E3ljrN3VV2HoRt+PhZ3CS2WexKA OQl+YvGP4Ddnw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RYRkv5D59z9rxh; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:32:23 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309313 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > > Block marks are usually supported well enough by these formats. In the > > > case of org it would be #+BEGIN_WHATEVER end #+END_WHATEVER I suppose. > > That syntax would do the job, but they are more clumsy than the syntax > used by Texinfo: @WHATEVER and @end WHATEVER. In order for a modified > Org mode syntax to be a step up, it should look as clean as Texinfo. > > Might it be posisble to simplify the syntax that Org would use for > this? I am not convinced that it is necessary. Doing so will either be backward-incompatible or introduce more syntax constructs to Org, making the syntax more complicated. And I do not find the current syntax "clumsy". -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at