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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323773 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > No, I meant exactly what you described: to detect the situation where > the commit which introduced the version number is not the same as the > commit with the version tag. They are supposed to be the same commit. Two questions: 1. When would it make sense for this check to be triggered? 2. Who should be notified (and how) of this when this discrepancy is detected? Ideally, the package authors / maintainers would be notified directly via the GNU and NonGNU ELPA archives. Or was your recommendation to notify the users of the package upon install time, instead? If former, are there already some set of checks / tests run by the archives, where such an additional check could be added? -- Suhail