From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com,
acorallo@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some experience with the igc branch
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 15:01:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h66p5fy6.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27c7l9qmh.fsf@gmail.com>
Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I've reached the point where I don't know what else to explain. Could
>> always be improved, of course, and so on. Please find attached, with
>> request for feedback.
>
> Ahem, just remembered that I had already an admin/igc.org in the branch,
> so I've now replaced that with what I've written.
Thank you very much!
> - Concurrent. The GC runs in its own thread. There are no explicit
> calls to start GC, and Emacs doesn't have to wait for the GC to
> complete.
I don't think that's true right now (it is what I want for Christmas,
though). On GNU/Linux, the GC usually runs on the main thread. On
macOS, the GC can run on the main thread (allocation) or on the SIGSEGV
handler thread (memory barriers); in both cases, the main thread has to
wait for it to complete.
I'm not sure it's ever useful to make the assumption that GC isn't
concurrent: it is very hard to do so, but it is possible.
Maybe Eli knows more; I posted a patch to force concurrent GC for
debugging a while ago, and Eli told me not to because it would produce
false positives. I'm not so sure about the "false" part now.
Pip
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-27 15:01 UTC|newest]
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2024-12-22 15:40 Some experience with the igc branch Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-22 17:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:29 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:41 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 17:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 19:11 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23 0:05 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 1:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-24 22:34 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 4:25 ` Freezing frame with igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 11:19 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 11:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23 3:42 ` Some experience with the igc branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 6:27 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-22 20:29 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-22 20:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 22:26 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 3:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-23 14:45 ` Make Signal handling patch platform-dependent? Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 14:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 13:35 ` Some experience with the igc branch Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 14:03 ` Discussion with MPS people Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 14:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:07 ` Some experience with the igc branch Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 15:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 16:03 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 17:16 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 18:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 20:30 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-23 23:39 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 13:18 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 13:42 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 8:48 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 13:54 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-23 17:44 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 20:49 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 21:43 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 21:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 21:58 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 23:20 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 5:38 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-24 6:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 10:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 4:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 8:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 6:03 ` SIGPROF + SIGCHLD and igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 8:23 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-24 8:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 9:22 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 9:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 10:46 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-27 8:08 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 14:53 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 15:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-27 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 8:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-27 15:40 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-27 15:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-27 11:36 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-27 16:14 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-28 10:02 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 23:37 ` Some experience with the igc branch Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 4:03 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 10:25 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 10:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-24 13:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 14:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 4:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 12:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 13:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 14:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 14:43 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-26 8:02 ` Helmut Eller
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2024-12-26 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26 23:29 ` Paul Eggert
2024-12-27 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 19:34 ` Paul Eggert
2024-12-28 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 15:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
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