From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:07:41 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87fzwhiuqa.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <200208271621.g7RGLNm30516@rum.cs.yale.edu> <874rdfaytt.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> <5xvg5sh06u.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <20020830235528.GA13207@gnu.org> <87ofbji88u.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87sn0scb0b.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87bs7ama8g.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031681274 20442 127.0.0.1 (10 Sep 2002 18:07:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17opQX-0005JZ-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:07:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17oq13-0001kA-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:45:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17opQ8-0001fb-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:07:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17opO4-0001Sq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17opO2-0001S3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.cablecom.net ([62.2.33.101]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17opO2-0001Rz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.swissonline.ch (mail-4.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.85]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g8AI5G20006359 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:05:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@emacswiki.org) Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-239-98.hispeed.ch [217.162.239.98]) by smtp.swissonline.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6/SMTPSOL/AWF/2002040101) with ESMTP id g8AI5HF06286 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:05:17 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17opQQ-0000EB-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:07:46 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:33:37 -0400") Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.90 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7815 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7815 Richard Stallman writes: > > It would be better to generate a defvar plus whatever other stuff > > you need. > > I prefer doing most of the work in functions rather than macros, > because if we change defkeymap in Emacs version X+1, then packages > compiled by the user in Emacs version X will call the new function, > and thus continue to work. I had a lot of such problems with > easymenu.el. > > defvar does a number of things, and eval-defun-1 handles it specially, > so please do generate a defvar. It is ok to do the rest with a > single function call. I don't quite understand the reason for this. Can you explain? And what is the important part -- that (defkeymap ...) expand into (progn (defvar ...) (custom-declare-keymap ...))? Alex.