From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mario Lang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lisp/url/url-https.el Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:47:45 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87fzb8cfxq.fsf@lexx.delysid.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081854628 16517 80.91.224.253 (13 Apr 2004 11:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 13 13:10:18 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDLo2-0002oE-00 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:10:18 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDLo1-0007Aq-00 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:10:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDLgQ-0001a3-LJ for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:02:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDLTb-0007Dq-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDLSM-0006Ri-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.109.223.66] (helo=lexx.delysid.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDLS8-00068x-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mlang by lexx.delysid.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDLSD-0002Uh-00 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:47:45 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:52:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21559 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21559 Richard Stallman writes: > If you set ESHELL=ssh, you can use M-x shell (and comint) run a > crypto-enabled application? > > So do we also have to remove shell.el and comint.el ? > > Proposing absurd extremes is a distraction. > It could be fun. Unfortunately I don't have time to > indulge that pleasure. I don't see the absurdity of the OP's message. After all, ssh is indeed a program for performing encryption (among other things), and Emacs does support its use through externally invoking the binary. The same thing applies to gnutls/openssl. I think if we are already discussiong legal implications, we should think about this case too. I think Kim was actually trying to emphasis the absurdity of removing ssl support code from Emacs in the first place, since that does not do any encryption at all, directly. The same thing applies to Tramp and comint.el. They allow for external programs to be used to encrypt network traffic, but they do not do any encryption at all by themselves. -- CYa, Mario | Debian Developer | Get my public key via finger mlang@db.debian.org | 1024D/7FC1A0854909BCCDBE6C102DDFFC022A6B113E44