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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, bob@rattlesnake.com, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:39:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fz2bgy3j.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x57jnn5s50.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun,  12 Dec 2004 18:43:39 +0100")

* David Kastrup:

> d) is it a good idea to change a large body of free software (like the
> GNU Emacs manual) to a different licence when it is well-known that
> substantial forks exist for which no licence change is possible, not
> least of all because the fork does not have the permission of the FSF
> to change the licence for old derived material to the GFDL, even in
> the case (which is not the current case) that they'd wanted to do it?

d) doesn't apply to the situation which sparked this discussion
because the Emacs manual hasn't been released under the GPL.  If the
XEmacs manual is GPLed, it's not a fork of the Emacs manual, because
the Emacs manual licensing terms have been GPL-incompatible since at
least 1992, probably even longer.

The widely held belief that the GFDL relicensing of the Emacs manual
introduced the GPL incompatibility (and invariant sections) is wrong.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-12 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 22:28 Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Ben Wing
2004-12-10 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-11  0:59   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-11  1:06     ` Miles Bader
2004-12-11 10:27   ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-12-11 18:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 20:43       ` David Kastrup
2004-12-11 19:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12  0:26       ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-12  8:57         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 16:56           ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-12 13:31       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-12-12 13:40         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12  2:03     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12  4:59       ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]         ` <m1CdWGG-0004R2C@rattlesnake.com>
2004-12-12 17:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 18:39             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2004-12-12 19:24               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 19:49                 ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-12 19:43             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 19:59               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 20:46                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 21:00               ` Andy Piper
2004-12-13  1:59                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  2:23                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 12:34                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-12-13 16:53                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 14:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 19:14                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 20:19                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15 23:32                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-17  5:36                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 23:20                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-16 10:58                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-16 12:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-16 12:29                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-17  0:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-18 10:20                               ` Ben Wing
2004-12-18 23:32                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-12-19  6:31                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19  6:32                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19 13:54                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-19 15:40                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 16:10                                   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-19 21:32                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 23:48                                       ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-20  8:07                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 14:05                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-20  0:19                                       ` Ben Wing
2004-12-20  7:20                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 10:58                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-20 10:56                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-20 12:47                                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-17  1:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-12  4:39     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-12  6:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12 21:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-12 21:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13  2:22             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  6:48               ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-13 10:05                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 17:44                   ` Bruce Stephens
2004-12-14 13:09                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-14  2:56               ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-14 14:16                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  4:23           ` Dhruva
2004-12-13 19:51         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-13 20:03           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 10:03             ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-12-14 10:14               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 14:09             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 14:25               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 20:19                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 22:09                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15  0:12                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15  8:03                   ` Per Abrahamsen

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