From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai@emptydomain.de (Kai =?iso-8859-15?Q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Disabling Tramp Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:34:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87fyz5osds.fsf@emptydomain.de> References: <422E4F9B.3020704@wyrdrune.com> <87sm3572yy.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110375521 10960 80.91.229.2 (9 Mar 2005 13:38:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 14:38:40 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D91Ne-000819-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:37:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D91cJ-0001zW-AY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:52:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D91bz-0001y2-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:52:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D91bw-0001wJ-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:52:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D91bv-0001uz-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:52:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1D91Kv-0000nG-Up for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:34:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1D91KB-0007bN-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:34:07 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9e1e5ee.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.225.229.238]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:34:07 +0100 Original-Received: from kai by pd9e1e5ee.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:34:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9e1e5ee.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AqgxTTP72eZw5D6YGfcXM+ncyOc= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34375 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34375 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > BTW, would it be possible to mention _why_ tramp is better than > ange-ftp...? I think that's difficult because Tramp isn't better. It does a different job. Tramp consists of three parts. One part groks filenames of the form "/method:user@host:/some/file" and delegates the real work to backends based on the method. As an added value, you can omit the method, and then it will choose a default method based on the user and the host. One of the backends it knows about is ange-ftp. The second part is a backend which uses smbclient to access the files. The third part is a backend which uses a remote login program to access the files. The added value for using Ange-FTP together with Tramp is that this provides a unified filename syntax for remote files, regardless of how the remote system is accessed. One can remove the Tramp entries from file-name-handler-alist and re-add the Ange-FTP entries there. But it's also possible to just type "/ftp:user@host:/some/file" as the filename, or to set tramp-default-method, as Michael mentioned. Kai