From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:55:18 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fyy3hvxl.fsf@jurta.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112861972 17808 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 08:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 10:19:30 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSDG-000469-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:18:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJRmW-0004vi-AH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJRlh-0004M8-0X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJRlg-0004HF-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:49:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.100] (helo=MXR-2.estpak.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJRwF-00049t-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-33-197-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.33.197]) by MXR-2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD69C185793 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:59:52 +0300 (EEST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:31:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35683 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35683 After a week of messing with tutorial files we eventually reached the point where tutorial files are no more correct: some files now miss important references to copyright conditions and not grammatically correct anymore. Many languages don't allow titles ended with a period. They should be restored to their initial correct state. There was nothing wrong with tutorial files before changes. A more correct way to implement this feature is to add tutorial titles as a new property of the language info-alist similarly to the `sample-text' property which contains a sample text in the same language. With this getting a tutorial title will be very easy: (get-language-info current-language-environment 'tutorial-title) Also currently the splash screen is misleading: Emacs Tutorial Learn how to use Emacs efficiently (TUTORIAL TITLE) It suggest users to select "Emacs Tutorial" to get the tutorial in their native languages. This is wrong menu item name. More correct text on the splash screen would be: Emacs Tutorial Learn how to use Emacs efficiently Emacs Tutorial (choose language)... TUTORIAL TITLE It would be good also to create a X menu with a list of languages after selecting "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." menu item to help Emacs novices to select their languages. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/