From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Don't concat directories to file names
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:16:29 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fy4fd0yq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0706251123u43f024efyb66eefbf6f226135@mail.gmail.com>
Juanma Barranquero writes:
> I know, I'm even using `directory-file-name' in The Function Without A
> Name. But Emacs users and developers apparently don't, if they don't
> balk at the idea of a function *-file returning the path (cough, the
> filename, I mean) of a directory.
It's not globally consistent, of course.
As with many other concepts in Emacs there is a confusion between
objects, names for objects, and handles (references) to objects.
Consider fonts and coding systems. (XEmacs actually has font objects
and coding system objects, but I have yet to see a case where the
distinction between a symbol naming such an object and the actual
object is useful.)
Consider that Emacs doesn't have a notion of file handle. What serves
for a file handle in Emacs is a buffer visiting a file. Thus the
distinction between the verbs "find" and "locate", which serves the
same kind of purpose with complete different syntax.
I don't mean to argue that you're "wrong" (how could you be? this is
definitely a YMMV kinda thang :-). Nor does this directly address the
PATH-style path vs. URL-style path issue. This helps me to
rationalize it, that's all.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-26 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-13 16:22 Don't concat directories to file names Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 15:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 17:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-14 21:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 1:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 7:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 9:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 10:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 11:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 14:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 16:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 18:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 16:39 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-15 16:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 0:38 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-16 0:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 3:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-16 3:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 4:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-15 22:45 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 23:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 19:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 20:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-17 12:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-18 7:25 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 7:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-20 13:29 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20 13:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-20 14:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-20 14:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-21 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 8:08 ` Kai Grossjohann
2007-06-21 8:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 1:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 7:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 18:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 18:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 9:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 14:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 14:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 15:00 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 18:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 18:32 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 18:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-26 0:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2007-06-25 16:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-25 18:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-25 19:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-25 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-25 20:39 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 20:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-25 15:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 2:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-21 8:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-21 8:23 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-21 8:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-16 5:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-16 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 16:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 19:51 ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-14 21:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14 21:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-15 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-15 7:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-14 19:40 ` Tom Tromey
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