From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:35:18 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87fxx76mh5.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080105182456.GR30869@thyrsus.com> <20080105214810.GZ30869@thyrsus.com> <20080105233923.GH30869@thyrsus.com> <18304.10442.537860.246188@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87k5mnoge1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <18304.21595.549190.232362@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <85bq7zjjgb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199892951 21676 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2008 15:35:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:35:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 09 16:36:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JCcyH-0004Li-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:36:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCcxu-00089r-MW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:35:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCcxq-00087J-5R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCcxo-000866-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCcxn-000861-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCcxn-0002Ua-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JCcxk-0003GU-G9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:35:28 +0000 Original-Received: from h-66-167-77-75.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([66.167.77.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:35:28 +0000 Original-Received: from wohler by h-66-167-77-75.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:35:28 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-66-167-77-75.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NJpRZrt+/Vrmg2WfeIide6DP7Ik= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86646 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Nick Roberts writes: > >> > Perhaps it's improved recently, but the last time I used the savannah >> > bug tracker it was completely awful, and seemed to have no email >> > support other than sending bug status changes and the like. >> >> Yes it looks like Bugzilla is far superior. I know that this has also been >> suggested before, and I'm trying not to go round in circles, but I notice now >> that GCC use their mailing list gcc-bugs for their Bugzilla bug-tracking >> system. If we set Emacs up similarly, then presumably Richard (and others) >> could use e-mail as before, while those that want to could submit bug reports >> through Bugzilla. > > If Savannah's bug report system is completely awful and Bugzilla is far > superior, then this would seem like something that would warrant > changing Savannah policies or options instead of just special-casing > Emacs. That's true, but I don't think Bugzilla is superior enough to warrant that. Some might argue it isn't even better. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD