From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-n and C-a Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:45:45 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fxixskgm.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87bptqywpq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87skn1fxaw.fsf@jurta.org> <87iqnv2xk5.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233540398 1495 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2009 02:06:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 03:07:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LToE2-0005KP-Nv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:07:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LToCk-0004mr-A0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LToCg-0004mK-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LToCe-0004lw-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41498 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LToCe-0004lt-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:24 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:55057) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LToCd-0003nH-PX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LToCZ-00028l-VT; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:06:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:47:03 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: c2436a487120708c9e0f2b31fdd4cc45 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108546 Archived-At: >>>> word-wrap-mode >>> But this is a misleading name: the issue is not how lines are wrapped >>> but how motion command behave. So visual-line-mode is a much better >>> name in this respect. >> visual-line-mode is no less misleading - in addition to enabling visual >> motion commands it also enables word wrap mode. And there is no way >> to enable visual motion commands without enabling warping text at >> word boundaries. >> These are two separate features amalgamated into one mode. >> I think we should provide a way to toggle them separately. > > I'd tend to agree. I (setq-default word-wrap t) in my .emacs, FWIW. This would be a good default for most users since most editors enable word wrap by default. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/