From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: & and M-& to run programs asynchronously Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:27:19 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fxded5wg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87hcbkpo0e.fsf@gmail.com> <86y74wzeq1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <874p7ifonh.fsf@jurta.org> <873amryzdu.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87iqt9dwtm.fsf@gmail.com> <87zlmfpov5.fsf@jurta.org> <87tz20660j.fsf@yahoo.com> <873a9km3fh.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87y6rbgez1.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> <87hbxy373a.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zlbps06o.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246577347 25972 80.91.229.12 (2 Jul 2009 23:29:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Clemente , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 03 01:28:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MMVi7-0001CL-5b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:28:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MMVi6-0005Qf-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MMVi2-0005Qa-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MMVhx-0005PF-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:28:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59914 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MMVhx-0005PC-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out3.starman.ee ([85.253.0.5]:52211 helo=smtp-gw1.starman.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MMVhu-0007LJ-3i; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.starman.ee (mx1.starman.ee [62.65.192.16]) by smtp-gw1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCDE27D24; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:28:44 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.28.230.cable.starman.ee [82.131.28.230]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394223F4021; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:28:38 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:03:26 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111925 Archived-At: > In general, the current Emacs support for asynchronous apps seems quite > clumsy. I usually don't want the "*Async Shell Command*" output buffer, > or at least, don't want to see it unless there's actually some > output... (which there usually isn't). The current restriction to a > single background app is simply dumb. It seems the best user interface to interactively modify the behavior of the command before executing it would be a set of keys to toggle a state variable in the minibuffer in the same way as was recently proposed for refraining from recording the item in the minibuffer history (instead of ignoring entries starting with space). -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/