From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:12:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87fxd5o917.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247173979 25622 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2009 21:12:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ferkiwi+a@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 09 23:12:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MP0vE-0000Wz-Ex for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:12:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52169 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MP0vD-0002XO-Pj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MP0v9-0002X8-5m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MP0v3-0002WA-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59240 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MP0v3-0002W7-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]:41839) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MP0v3-0000qb-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so577944ewy.42 for ; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ewls9+/TNUXKOvssvYjMxY92Ifes8A9bmUkJhjL1ZbU=; b=Y4yCs6aDEK+f9dfJ993I7D/wUDAZpXjGhjmnY0rfgHqNX5X1hcBaJZgZoCQsFb+b9w bZ1OyS6xR3D3SvGTyFMd9UR2ZQ948vMFOk/Epw2nR637huSYEclxiPNQP5ZfK+R6k1yU dMmp+vZzcYf5guPeXcdfBK9nndD7gjpf0aLXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=JtoItlxrVXDWPBZ/nMDie6IeMa7dzvSBIC4S+1BtBUvpTGqiXlFb9Z66/As4n/X2rb uXbkerrNDX2Y7MZrOdKmBmv82iyWxwZquxRYSIhheg/eulaXW4dBjUDAjF8xqA50A2Kv ya0SyGfzdcW8Dx+CvBHdESjHiSRo1Yt5AQfOk= Original-Received: by 10.210.125.7 with SMTP id x7mr1508124ebc.15.1247173959737; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (vil35-2-82-227-204-220.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.204.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1140067eyf.24.2009.07.09.14.12.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Fernando's message of "Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:11:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112258 Archived-At: Hi, Fernando> First, I would like to know if you agree about the reasons for Fernando> having a web browser in Emacs (either as part of it or as an Fernando> external lisp package). As Chong pointed out, rendering today web is a full-time-full-team job. You might find uzbl[1] of interest. It is basically a frame rendering the html/css+js, and that's it. Control, bookmarks, history ... well, everything else than rendering is let to third party tools. IOW, very suitable for an uzbl-mode. [1] http://www.uzbl.org/ -- Paul