From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying bytes (was: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen.) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:59:54 +0900 Message-ID: <87fx835elh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20091119155848.GB1314@muc.de> <87aayiihe9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20091119180848.GE1314@muc.de> <47325.130.55.118.19.1258658705.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <20091119212550.GG1314@muc.de> <87my2ign8u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <912155b0911231334s2b52e8eq864251c9aed386b3@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259128466 17284 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 05:54:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per.starback@gmail.com, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 06:54:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDApW-0006qq-A9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:54:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDApV-0005du-Gk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:54:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDApO-0005dh-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:54:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDApJ-0005cg-7B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49889 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDApJ-0005cd-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:54:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:43378) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDApC-000585-Um; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:53:59 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B191E1535A8; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:53:56 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2C0C1A2907; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:59:54 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 1444e28f1a3d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117733 Archived-At: Kenichi Handa writes: > In article , Richard Stallman writes: > > If so, should we change the default priorities? > > I'm not sure. As it seems that windows-1252 is a superset of > iso-8859-1, it may be ok to give windows-1252 the higher priority. > How do iso-8859-1 users think? Why not make a Windows-12xx coding-category? If you don't want to advertise what it is, you could call it "ascii8" or "pseudo-ascii" or something like that. (Wouldn't some of the obsolete Vietnamese standards fit this too? Ie, 0-0177 are the same as ISO-646, and 0200-0377 are used for the alternate script?) If you don't make a separate coding category for that, I don't like the change, myself. Windows-12xx character sets are proprietary in the sense that last I looked, the IANA registry for Windows-12xx coded character sets pointed to internal Microsoft documents, and made no promises about changes to those documents. As far as I know, Microsoft added the EURO SIGN to Windows-1252 simply by editing that internal page. There was no indication of the history of such changes on the IANA page.