From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relationship between 23.1.90 pretest and 23.2 pretest? Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87fx7ev2jr.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <87k4wux5ls.fsf@red-bean.com> <87skbialcq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vj178kg.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87tyvvx6df.fsf@red-bean.com> <871vizlxmg.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pr6jx5lc.fsf@red-bean.com> <655B1275-93C1-4DB3-A016-55AC61A1E384@swipnet.se> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1260749423 14914 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2009 00:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 14 01:10:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NJyVy-0006R6-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:10:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJyVx-0006Qu-VE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJyVs-0006Qf-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJyVn-0006Q9-Ns for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47659 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJyVn-0006Q6-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.206.141]:38984) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJyVn-0007bS-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33099 helo=floss ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NJyVk-0002DD-VC; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:10:01 -0600 In-Reply-To: <655B1275-93C1-4DB3-A016-55AC61A1E384@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:36:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118600 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > I haven't read this thread. Did we just move to Bzr? I missed the > announcement. We are moving now.=20=20 The first step is to make the CVS repository read-only. Then Andreas can do a clean final conversion, without worrying about, say, a non-atomic multi-directory CVS commit being only partially included in the conversion. Thus there will be a brief period, while Andreas converts, when we can't make commits to CVS but Bzr is not ready either. It shouldn't be long; I don't know exactly how long these conversions take, but my guess is a day or less. You can continue to commit to CVS until the repository goes read-only, of course. (I suppose there's an outside chance of a race condition, due to CVS's non-atomicity, whereby some of a given commit gets in but not all, because the admins make the repository read-only during the commit. In practice, I'm not worried about it. There are ways they could avoid even that small risk... but it's better just to let them do whatever is easiest for them, so that it gets done sooner.) -Karl > 12 dec 2009 kl. 22.09 skrev Karl Fogel : >> Chong Yidong writes: >>> Karl Fogel writes: >>>> Shall I file an SR now, asking the admins to make the CVS repository >>>> read-only? I don't see one already -- but I don't want to step on >>>> anyone's toes if one of you have already put in the request. >>> >>> Please do. >> >> https://savannah.gnu.org/support/index.php?107170