From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:18:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwzkbzg8.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8339vlgcax.fsf@gnu.org
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
[snip]
Thanks Eli and Jan for your comments.
From your discussion it seems that the only serious "problem" with Emacs
and Gnome's canvas (or any other canvas) is coupling the Emacs display
system with it. AFAIK the display system have evolved from the tty one
by incremental updates, which makes it very complex and hard to
maintain. My plan is radical: bypass the current Emacs display system
and implement a new one on top of the canvas. This would be purely
event-driven, hopefully with very little special cases for the platforms
where Emacs runs, and substantially simpler because the canvas would
take care of the low level chores.
On the long term, this could allow to remove the GUI code from the current
display system and left the tty code alone.
If the display system is decoupled from the buffer-handling code, the
high-level event system (Elisp hooks, etc) and the rest of Emacs in
general, it could be doable with a reasonable amount of work for a
single developer. Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-15 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-13 19:02 Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Stephen Eilert
2010-07-13 19:29 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-13 19:51 ` Chad Brown
2010-07-13 20:48 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-13 22:30 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Chad Brown
2010-07-14 1:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-14 2:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-14 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14 18:37 ` Chad Brown
2010-07-14 20:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14 21:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 6:55 ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas (was: Emacs, QT and Cairo) Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 7:46 ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 7:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 8:36 ` joakim
2010-07-15 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 8:50 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 8:48 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 8:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 9:29 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 10:54 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 14:18 ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2010-07-15 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 6:33 ` Miles Bader
2010-07-15 16:00 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-15 16:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 17:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 21:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 14:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 16:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 21:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 23:44 ` Chad Brown
2010-07-17 0:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 8:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-17 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 9:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-17 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 13:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 13:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 21:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-18 1:42 ` Miles Bader
2010-07-18 2:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-18 8:06 ` Chad Brown
2010-07-18 14:43 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-21 8:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-22 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-15 17:22 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-15 18:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 22:10 ` Stephen Eilert
2010-07-16 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 2:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 7:33 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 10:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 12:42 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17 3:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 8:33 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17 8:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 9:18 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17 9:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 10:26 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-18 3:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-18 7:10 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-18 7:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-18 9:06 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-19 0:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 1:00 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 1:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 8:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:21 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 10:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:26 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 14:05 ` Davis Herring
2010-07-16 17:38 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17 1:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 7:31 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 8:32 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15 14:24 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 15:16 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 17:14 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 9:20 ` Andy Wingo
2010-07-15 18:41 ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas (was: Emacs, QT and Cairo) Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2010-07-15 21:51 ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 22:21 ` Bruce Stephens
2010-07-27 21:24 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Stefan Monnier
2010-07-27 21:36 ` Chad Brown
2010-07-28 3:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14 8:59 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-14 9:41 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo David Engster
2010-07-14 9:56 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-14 13:50 ` Drew Adams
2010-07-14 14:14 ` David Engster
2010-07-14 14:28 ` joakim
2010-07-14 15:41 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Chong Yidong
2010-07-14 16:17 ` joakim
2010-07-14 18:04 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 23:15 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-07-16 7:41 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 10:24 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-07-16 12:36 ` Jan Djärv
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2010-07-17 19:02 Emacs and Gnome Canvas grischka
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