From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: users and selection changes Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:46:59 -0400 Message-ID: <87fww718vw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87r5fxnwcp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eibvupir.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4CB6115E.7010304@harpegolden.net> <87zkuhv1vc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20F7A620198B48BFBD9582C310C65244@us.oracle.com> <83fww8d3m6.fsf@gnu.org> <83eibscuf3.fsf@gnu.org> <83d3rbdcqi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287175630 17287 80.91.229.12 (15 Oct 2010 20:47:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 15 22:47:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6rBF-0005Dp-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:47:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P6rBE-0004pR-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52509 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P6rB9-0004p8-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6rB8-0007Qs-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po16.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.72]:38367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6rB6-0007QY-Tv; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:47:00 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014158.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.158]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po16.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9FKkxp0010585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:47:00 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DECEAC018; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:46:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:48:51 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131749 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > My idea to get around that problem (expressed on the gnu.emacs.help > newsgroup) is to add a feature that makes emacs put all selections > _except_ those originating from itself (the current Emacs process) on > the kill ring. That is OK as an option, but not the default. It makes accidental clobbering too easy; if you type C-c in another X application and select some text, you wouldn't be able to paste the original copied text into Emacs with C-y. This is inconsistent with the modern X point of view, which treats the primary selection as a fragile entity easily overwritten as a side-effect of text-selection, and therefore unreliable for anything except middle click mouse pastes. Hence all nontrivial application operations (e.g. the various Paste/Paste As/Paste Into commands) should act on the clipboard. If someone wants to implement the option, feel free.