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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: face for non-ASCII characters
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:05:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwp4esun.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87pqo8vph6.fsf@stupidchicken.com

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:26:13 -0400 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote: 

CY> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> After that I changed it so the user can review and decide at each
>> opportunistic install.
>> 
>> This is not a binary question, it's a scale.  You want to take a step
>> towards the wrong end of the scale.  We are just introducing the
>> separate package archive, which is a big step.  Now is too soon to
>> consider another step.  The risk here is hard to calculate, so we must
>> be cautious.

CY> For what it's worth, I don't think general-case opportunistic
CY> installation is a good idea, even from a strictly technical standpoint.

CY> One can imagine special instances where one might wish to prompt the
CY> user, at a very specific point during the execution of a command, to
CY> install a package.  In fact, this can be done easily using the existing
CY> package.el infrastructure (or even without package.el; this is Lisp,
CY> after all).

OTOH it's very nice to be told "hey, you could have X if you installed
package Y."  I think it's good to know about these opportunities at
customization time.

For example, markchars.el has optional behavior if idn.el is installed.
It would be nice if the customization for `markchars-what' connected the
'markchars-nonidn-fun option with the idn.el package, so that 1) the
user knows there's a connection, and 2) the user can choose to enable
'markchars-nonidn-fun and *at that time* must install idn.el as well.

This could be done in customization code like this:

(defcustom markchars-what
  `(markchars-simple-pattern
    markchars-confusables
    ,@(when (fboundp 'idn-is-recommended) '(markchars-nonidn-fun)))
  "Things to mark, a list of regular expressions or symbols."
  :type `(repeat (choice :tag "Marking choices"
                         (const
                          :required-feature 'idn ; NEW Custom tag
                          :tag "Non IDN chars (Unicode.org tr39 suggestions)"
                          markchars-nonidn-fun)
                         (const :tag "Confusables" markchars-confusables)
                         (const :tag "`markchars-simple-pattern'"
                                markchars-simple-pattern)
                         (regexp :tag "Arbitrary pattern")))
  :group 'markchars)

Note the awkwardness of the default, which could also be remedied by
this new tag.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-26 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 19:11 Translation of http status code to text Lennart Borgman
2010-03-22  1:19 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 13:17   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 14:01     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 14:25       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:06         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:55           ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 19:23             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 20:32               ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 21:31                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23  9:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 13:08                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 14:26                       ` face for non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:28                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 18:18                           ` face for non-ASCII characters Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 22:41                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 23:07                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16  0:51                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16  9:10                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:05                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:28                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:42                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:50                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:57                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:01                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:13                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:22                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:27                                                   ` Drew Adams
2011-04-16 16:45                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:48                                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:55                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 17:11                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 15:48                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 15:53                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 16:20                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 17:03                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-19 13:07                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-19 18:56                                                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 14:49                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-20 21:38                                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 17:35                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 18:42                                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 19:14                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:00                                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 20:35                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:53                                                                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 21:18                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 12:20                                                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 12:49                                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-22 13:23                                                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-23  0:50                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-23  7:13                                                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-25 17:54                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26 18:26                                                                                                       ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-26 19:05                                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-04-26 20:29                                                                                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-27  3:45                                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27  4:42                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-02 18:18                                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:50                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-03 14:45                                                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:21                                                                                                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-04 14:41                                                                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-27 12:41                                                                                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 14:20                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 17:12                                                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26  3:14                                                                                                 ` package management proposals for Emacs (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26  8:10                                                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 21:46                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-27  1:19                                                                                                       ` package management proposals for Emacs Stefan Monnier
2011-04-27  3:36                                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27 21:14                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26  3:09                                                                                               ` markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26  8:13                                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 15:28                                                                                                   ` idn.el and confusables.txt (was: markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-13 19:42                                                                                                     ` idn.el and confusables.txt Stefan Monnier
2011-05-13 20:19                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14  8:13                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14  8:06                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14  8:56                                                                                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-14  9:36                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 13:40                                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 14:38                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 15:30                                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 16:42                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 17:06                                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 20:59                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15  1:22                                                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-15  5:56                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15 12:14                                                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 12:38                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-16 18:31                                                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-17 17:59                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-17 15:32                                                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 18:15                                                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 17:25                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-15 13:06                                                                                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2011-05-15 17:34                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18  5:23                                                                                                             ` handa
2011-05-18  7:38                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18  7:59                                                                                                                 ` handa
2011-05-18  8:13                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-17  8:15                                                                                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-17 15:12                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21  2:07                                                                                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21  2:53                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21  3:29                                                                                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21  6:11                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21  7:22                                                                                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21  7:34                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21  8:02                                                                                                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 10:30                                                                                                                                     ` bidi at startup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 15:12                                                                                                                                       ` bidi at startup Stefan Monnier
2011-06-21 17:13                                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:32                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-07  6:10                                                                                                                         ` C interface to Unicode character property char-tables Kenichi Handa
2011-08-06 16:52                                                                                                                         ` Using uniprop_table_lookup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09  0:55                                                                                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09  1:32                                                                                                                             ` Using uniprop_table_lookup Stefan Monnier
2011-08-09  4:31                                                                                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-15  8:57                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 10:42                                                                                                     ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 10:42                                                                                                       ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 15:22                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-16 16:00                                             ` face for non-ASCII characters Drew Adams
2010-03-23 19:40                         ` Florian Beck
2010-03-23 14:35                       ` Translation of http status code to text Miles Bader
2010-03-23 14:22                     ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:50                       ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http statuscode " Drew Adams
2010-03-23 21:49                         ` highlighting non-ASCII characters Stefan Monnier
2010-03-23 21:53                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24  0:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24  1:03                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24  2:47                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24  4:20                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-24  5:14                                     ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 13:25                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 15:06                                         ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 19:47                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 10:05                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 16:21                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-24 19:34                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 17:35                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 20:43                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 22:50                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 18:38                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 18:48                                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-29 20:20                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:19                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:51                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 13:22                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:05                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:31                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 21:32                                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 13:15                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 14:04                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 14:17                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 14:42                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 16:18                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-30  1:45                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25  7:11                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 14:07                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 17:32                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-26  0:32                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 13:38                                               ` Stephen Berman
2010-03-26 22:44                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25  7:12                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24  2:09                               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24  5:00                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-24  9:28                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 13:15                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24  9:27                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 18:41           ` Translation of http status code to text Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 19:15             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23  9:54               ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 10:54                 ` joakim
2010-03-23 15:02                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24  3:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 17:35                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-24 19:37                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-25  1:16                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 12:57               ` Stefan Monnier

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