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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: asking for advice for changing the cfengine.el progmode to support CFEngine 3.x
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:28:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwmrtbqz.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvr56bs3tq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:11:16 -0400 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: 

>> As it is, except for highlighting string interpolation, it's great for
>> everyday work.  So I want to know if there's any reason to pursue
>> SMIE--what more can it do for this mode--and if there are any other
>> comments on the code.  If not, I'll remove the unnecessary parts, commit
>> it, and make a note in cfengine.el about the newer version.

SM> I don't have time to look further into it.  The strength of SMIE is that
SM> it structures the indentation code in a way that makes it fairly robust
SM> (in terms of indentation when the style is unusual, such as newlines
SM> placed at unexpected places) once it works and also that the most
SM> difficult part is the parsing, but that this then can be used for more
SM> than indentation (e.g. for structural navigation, for blink-matching,
SM> hopefully in the future it will also be used for alignment (in the
SM> sense of M-x align)).

Well, that's why I did the work of extracting the full cfengine 3.x
grammar, so you could see if SMIE made sense or a standard parser was
better.  But it really seems like modifying the standard syntax tables
plus a little bit of indentation logic works OK without SMIE, so I was
asking what else would I get if I put the extra work into writing a SMIE
grammar.

SM> But SMIE is far from perfect and is not meant to be "the one and
SM> only way to do it", so if it doesn't work for you, don't use it.

I want to learn it and use it.  It's just not easy, so please have
patience.  I'm learning OPGs from scratch.

Ted




      reply	other threads:[~2011-06-30 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-17 18:11 asking for advice for changing the cfengine.el progmode to support CFEngine 3.x Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17 22:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-20 20:42   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 14:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-21 19:26       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 17:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-22 21:24           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-23 21:31             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 15:44               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 12:47                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 16:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-30 18:25                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 21:10                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-30 21:29                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-01  8:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-01 10:15                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-01 11:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-01 13:03                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 16:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-30 18:28                 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]

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