From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with new smtpmail Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:30:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87fwmjnzhi.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87wrfwrxiu.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87oc17o1ho.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309969879 10501 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 16:31:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:31:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 18:31:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeV0J-0002Bj-Vd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:31:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40175 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeV0I-0003cY-Is for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUzp-0003ZG-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUzl-0007NF-9Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUzk-0007N5-MH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUzj-0001ts-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:30:36 +0200 Original-Received: from 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.59.2.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:30:35 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:30:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sdzpfynl2C4QfPGuXU/CptnNXaQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141662 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: [snip] >> And STARTTLS is not supported by Emacs (generic) or there was something >> missing at configure time that makes *my* Emacs to lack STARTTLS? > > Yes. You compiled your Emacs without gnutls support, and you don't have > gnutls-cli installed, either. Maybe another good candidate for a NEWS mention. There is no immediate relation among gnutls and STARTTLS for me. It is the first time that I see gnutls-cli mentioned. It is not in NEWS. >> From reading NEWS again, it may seem that STARTTLS is supported but >> not properly configured on my setup (missing >> smtpmail-starttls-credentials, perhaps?) > > That variable doesn't exist, so, no. :-) So why is it mentioned in NEWS? [snip] >> That's fine if you start from a clean setup, but my short experience >> demonstrates that if you have previous settings, one ends confused. > > I think the only thing your example showed was that smtpmail was > over-zealous in requiring STARTTLS if the server offered it... That was one half of the problem. My previous setup is now not functional because it used variables that are not obeyed by smtpmail as it used to (smtpmail-default-smtp-server ignored when in custom-set-variables, smtpmail-auth-credentials gone)