From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:12:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwimkvl3.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsjmmdypw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:52:45 -0400")
On 21 Oct 2011, Stefan Monnier spake thusly:
>> True! So it wouldn't be as hellish to write our own allocator as it
>> would be for most projects, because we've done 90% of the work already
>> (including the hard part: allocating things of variable size).
>
> Actually, no, that doesn't include the hard part: we only do our own
> allocation for fixed-size objects (cons, floats, markers&overlays,
> symbols, string headers) plus relocatable variable size objects (string
> text). For the non-relocatable, non-fixed size objects (i.e. vectors)
> we defer to malloc.
Oh heck. I assumed that were were allocating the strings themselves, not
just their headers, and didn't check the source code. Mea culpa.
>> Yeah. As an aside: most of the inside of Emacs is quite nice, but I am
>> seriously unimpressed by overlay storage. Linear scans for
>> 'overlays-at'? Ew. One of these years I might try to implement something
>> better, like what XEmacs did for extents, so you can find extents over a
>> given buffer position more efficiently... (not because this is visibly a
>> problem in profiles that I've seen, merely because the inefficiency
>> offends me :) )
>
> Yes, overlays (and to some extent markers) are in serious needs of
> a redesign. We get bitten by this performance problem, which is why
> a lot of code goes through a fair bit of trouble to avoid overlays and
> use text-properties instead (and the code that doesn't bother doing
> that is usually only usable on small buffers).
Oh good. On my huge todo list it goes then!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-21 19:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-13 9:24 Emacs bzr memory footprint Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 10:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-13 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 13:08 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 15:22 ` Miles Bader
2011-10-13 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 16:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 17:33 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-13 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 3:09 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-13 16:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-13 16:59 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:13 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 14:10 ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-13 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 15:05 ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-13 14:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 16:55 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-14 12:11 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 21:02 ` John Wiegley
2011-10-15 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 17:22 ` Richard Riley
2011-10-13 16:12 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-13 20:18 ` chad
2011-10-14 12:13 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 12:18 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 15:49 ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-14 16:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-14 16:48 ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-14 17:16 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-15 18:12 ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-20 13:35 ` Nix
2011-10-20 23:02 ` John Wiegley
2011-10-21 0:19 ` Nix
2011-10-21 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 12:05 ` Nix
2011-10-21 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 12:47 ` Nix
2011-10-21 14:30 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 15:22 ` Nix
2011-10-21 18:29 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 18:36 ` Nix
2011-10-21 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 15:02 ` Nix
2011-10-21 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 19:12 ` Nix [this message]
2011-10-21 15:34 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 18:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-21 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 19:11 ` Nix
2011-10-21 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 20:21 ` Nix
2011-10-22 7:34 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-22 8:30 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-22 12:03 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-22 16:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27 22:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 9:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 10:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 11:52 ` valgrind warnings [Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 14:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28 14:38 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 15:17 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-28 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 16:34 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 18:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 15:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-04 21:11 ` Florian Weimer
2011-10-28 20:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-29 3:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-29 7:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-29 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-04 12:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-04 13:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-11-04 15:50 ` valgrind warnings Paul Eggert
2011-11-04 17:37 ` valgrind warnings [Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Stefan Monnier
2011-11-04 19:10 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-04 20:56 ` Paul Eggert
2011-11-05 22:08 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-06 2:34 ` Paul Eggert
2011-11-06 12:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-07 1:13 ` Paul Eggert
2011-10-29 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-22 8:44 ` Emacs bzr memory footprint Sven Joachim
2011-10-22 11:57 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-23 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-25 17:35 ` Nix
2011-10-25 20:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-25 20:34 ` Nix
2011-10-26 14:52 ` gnutls memory leak [Was: Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Chong Yidong
2011-10-27 6:10 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-27 22:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28 12:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28 17:29 ` Nix
2011-10-27 22:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-13 21:23 ` Emacs bzr memory footprint Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-14 13:04 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 18:13 ` James Cloos
2011-10-17 20:52 ` Juri Linkov
2011-10-17 23:34 ` James Cloos
2011-10-18 7:24 ` Andreas Schwab
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