From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cl-functions do not honor common-lisp-indent-function
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:12:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw2tt0rv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27go5hsxf.fsf@gmail.com>
Helmut Eller writes:
> On Wed, Dec 26 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> > Helmut Eller writes:
> >
> > > Those cl-* symbols have no (predefined) meaning for Common Lisp so
> > > shouldn't be in cl-indent.el; for the same reason there shouldn't be
> > > rules for save-excursion or condition-case.
> >
> > That is irrelevant.
>
> Why? Why should common-lisp-indent-function, by default, implement
> something other than the Common Lisp conventions?
It shouldn't. And certainly not by default (perhaps I should have
used the word "optional" instead of "modal"). But you've got the
wrong question. The right one is the inverse:
Why should anything other than `common-lisp-indent-function'
implement the Common Lisp conventions?
> > If the user thinks of these symbols as equivalent
> > to "real" Common Lisp standard symbols, then the user has every right
> > to ask Emacs to treat them as Common Lisp symbols.
>
> An Emacs Lisp user or for that matter a Scheme user has not "every
> right" to dictate the indentation rules for Common Lisp users.
Of course users of other Lisp dialects should not dictate to Common
Lisp users. But I was talking about *Emacs* users. I don't have any
trouble imagining that some Emacs users who program in both Common
Lisp and cl.el would like to see cl-* expressions follow the
corresponding Common Lisp conventions. After all, the OP is evidently
an example.
Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-26 13:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-24 13:59 cl-functions do not honor common-lisp-indent-function Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-24 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-26 7:57 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-26 8:44 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-26 9:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-26 12:57 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-26 13:12 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-12-26 16:24 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-26 16:44 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-26 16:54 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-26 17:09 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-27 4:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27 8:18 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-26 13:20 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-26 16:09 ` Helmut Eller
2012-12-27 17:24 ` Didier Verna
2012-12-29 6:43 ` Stefan Monnier
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