From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Turning off colorization Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:03:57 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fvdx4zwy.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <874muenb56.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87egtivwop.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k33951ey.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bnoln9uj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415189056 3128 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2014 12:04:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:04:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 05 13:04:09 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJm-00071B-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:04:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45945 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJm-0008MM-Jq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:04:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35533) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJe-0008Lc-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJZ-0005YS-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:03:58 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJZ-0005YM-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:03:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XlzJY-0006vc-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:03:52 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:03:52 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:03:52 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ySjDUEzWD+QG2YdRX1MADsodAiE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176393 Archived-At: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:52:04 +0000 phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) wrote: PL> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> So maybe Emacs could offer a way to turn off colors without turning off >> syntax highlighting, at least in SHR. I think it would be generally >> useful, but don't know if and how it could work generally. PL> This would be a matter of picking a different "colour" scheme surely? PL> One with no colours, but using the other elements that you talk about. PL> I have a high-vis colour scheme (white background rather than my usual PL> dark) which I use on my laptop on a sunny day, for instance. PL> Then a command line option to choose it, to avoid the bootstrap problem PL> of not being able to see emacs properly to choose the option. I think that's reasonable, and Tassilo agrees... PL> Of course, you'd need to ask an accessibility expert as to whether this PL> would help or not. I think it's clear that it would help Emacs users, but opinions welcome... On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:51:56 +0100 Tassilo Horn wrote: TH> Wouldn't it suffice to provide a `no-colors' theme that sets up the TH> standard font-lock faces so that they don't use colors but only bold TH> fonts, italics, underline, etc? TH> Probably, that wouldn't suffice because redefining each and every face TH> defined by some package isn't feasible. But maybe that "theme" could TH> also advise `defface' and friends and strip color attributes from TH> face-specs. I'd be OK with this, but don't know if it's enough or easy. Ted