From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Network security manager Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:06:04 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fvdhkgtf.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87wq6uj5gt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k32tkh1x.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416236781 25021 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 15:06:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:06:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 16:06:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNsc-0006lw-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:06:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48310 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNsc-0005bx-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55315) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNsL-0005bo-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:06:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNsD-0004SW-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNsD-0004SS-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqNs8-0006Vj-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:05:44 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:05:44 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:05:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cK5+PyUB/+O8JtHUWDd9pYru0bw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177416 Archived-At: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:00:58 -0500 Ted Zlatanov wrote: TZ> On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:17:19 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Feature branch or emacs-24 please. It should be applicable to >>>> emacs-24, and the maintainers have requested we work against emacs-24 in >>>> those cases, forward-porting the changes into master. >>> I don't think emacs-24 is supposed to receive new features, only bug >>> fixes. SM> Indeed. I could consider including it in a 24.5 release because it's SM> a somewhat important issue, but it would have to be "obviously safe" SM> (in the sense of "won't break anything"). That sounds fairly unlikely. TZ> I don't know how complicated it will be internally, but I don't think it TZ> will endanger any existing functionality (except TLS connections, of TZ> course). The only reason for it in 24.x is to add reasonable certificate TZ> handling so we can turn on certificate verification by default. I don't TZ> think it can be done otherwise without seriously damaging the user TZ> experience. TZ> Would you rather not make those changes in 24.x? BTW, I proposed using emacs-24 3 weeks ago in the thread "removing SSLv3 support by default from the Emacs GnuTLS integration (was: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.)" you can find here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00936.html There were no comments or objections. Sorry if I didn't ping people back then. I assumed it was a reasonable proposal and everyone was nodding agreement into their beards... Ted