From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87fvc8g9vt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419184916 6590 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 18:01:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , emacs , Sven Axelsson , Stephen Turnbull , Drew Adams To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 19:01:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kpC-0005Ic-8l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38010 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kpB-0004lF-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:01:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2koy-0004ko-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kox-00065u-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:01:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kox-00065q-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:01:35 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42450 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kop-0008DW-Im; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:01:27 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC51CE0C52; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:26 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:50:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180436 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Sven Axelsson wrote: >> On 21 December 2014 at 17:47, Drew Adams wrote: >>> >>> FWIW, I see no such sluggishness at that page, using Google Chrome. >>> The page loaded seemingly instantaneously, and both scroll-bar >>> scrolling and incremental search (C-f in Chrome) also seem >>> instantaneous. >>> >>> Am I missing something? Did you means something different from this? >> >> FWIW, using Safari on OS X 10.10, the page displays after 1.5s, scrolling >> and searching works immediately, and the page is fully loaded, with all >> of the more than 1000 images, in about 14s. > > > That is remarkable. However for pages with that many images I would > tell the image sizes in the HTML code and then do the actual loading > of the images in the scroll event: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/window.onscroll It is not exactly going to make moving around more pleasant when any scrolling results in reloading/rendering. Stuff like Google image search does that, and while it delivers a fast first response, scrolling/searching around gets more irritating. -- David Kastrup