From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:35:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87fv5rrftc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87mw01uj06.fsf@gmail.com> <877fr5t282.fsf@gnu.org> <557F2ECC.40201@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp4wjh51.fsf@gnu.org> <87ioanuag0.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434458191 6194 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 12:36:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:36:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 14:36:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4q6G-0007nH-3K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:36:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39946 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4q6F-00081A-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:36:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45003) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4q61-000813-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4q5x-0006kJ-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:54616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4q5x-0006kE-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (dhcp196.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1C3D1A833C for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:35:59 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87ioanuag0.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:03:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187210 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: >> What does "Alt key works" mean? Alt is Meta here, so typing >> Alt-AltGr-( says M-[ is undefined. > > I think what Paul means is that Alt should send Alt. I have my > left-Alt configured as Meta, but my right-Alt configured as Alt, so I > can type single and double quotes without all the C-x 8 RET malarkey. I don't even have a right Alt key, only AltGr which I need to be able to type {[`@=E2=82=AC=C2=B4]} etc. Bye, Tassilo