From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: yes-or-no-p prompt conditionally broken in master? Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87fv2ut5k4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83fv2v9y9z.fsf@gnu.org> <57355235-9af7-49fb-81b5-93182cfc9d49@default> <83a8t39x3t.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj128slp.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2s6o7qh.fsf@igel.home> <83wpw68j2n.fsf@gnu.org> <871teenysf.fsf@igel.home> <83r3me8ho3.fsf@gnu.org> <20150904133439.GB2991@acm.fritz.box> <83lhcm83vl.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441390513 12092 80.91.229.3 (4 Sep 2015 18:15:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Alan Mackenzie , drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 20:15:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVz-0008HL-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:15:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34132 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVt-0002dW-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVq-0002cM-D2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:14:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVp-0003pP-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVl-0003mQ-IH; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44582 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXvVk-0000e7-BC; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DAD2BE0FA8; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 20:14:51 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83lhcm83vl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:56:46 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189607 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:34:39 +0000 >> Cc: Andreas Schwab , kaushal.modi@gmail.com, >> bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> dgutov@yandex.ru, drew.adams@oracle.com >> From: Alan Mackenzie >> >> > Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing: the signature of >> > both functions and the return value are the same. What I propose is >> > to change the body so that it could act like one or the other, >> > depending on the value of some defcustom. >> >> I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but I find the above worrying, >> depending on the "depending". >> >> If the defcustom has three values "Always-y-or-n", "Always-yes-or-no", >> "depends-on-the-particular-invocation", I'm fine. With just the first >> two alternatives, I wouldn't like it. > > The intent is to provide a predicate defcustom that allows to cause > yes-or-no-p behave like y-or-n-p. y-or-n-p will always behave as it > does, and I didn't intend to change that, as I don't see the use case > for that. Reliable translation into selection boxes when feeding emacs -batch from a script? Predictable behavior when navigating Emacs by voice? Some people may prefer saying "yes" to saying "why". -- David Kastrup