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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r12sm2290305ioc.84.2019.03.21.10.32.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:32:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a7houwlm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:32:21 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234471 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Yuri Khan >> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 20:33:33 +0700 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel ,=20 >> emacs-devel >>=20 >> * Migrate everything to SVG. Teach developers SVG is good, bitmaps are >> bad. Package developer provides a single vector image. Failure mode: >> developer is on a high DPI screen, makes a high-detail image, low DPI >> users complain =E2=80=9Cimage is blurry=E2=80=9D. > > The failure mode that bothers me much more is that Emacs without SVG > support will be unable to show the standard fringe indicators. > > In general, having the basic Emacs functionality depend on image > libraries is a non-starter, IMO. What would be the issue in having this support be conditional if it is otherwise the best solution?