From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU ELPA package discoverability Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 14:23:47 +0200 Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87ftbf9dpo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <2e630dc7-ba1d-e4c9-74b3-4da976db1e82@yandex.ru> <87imglg51l.fsf@gnu.org> <83d06txuv4.fsf@gnu.org> <871rn9l35o.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv05waob.fsf@gnu.org> <874ks5gtca.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7w4oh5x.fsf@sachachua.com> <87o8qclael.fsf@gnu.org> <877dwzo1nm.fsf@sachachua.com> <87pnajrvb4.fsf@bzg.fr> <87eeqzhyj7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="71462"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Sacha Chua , rms@gnu.org, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 01 14:24:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjUn-000IU6-3t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 14:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjUm-0007RN-5c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjTx-0006yw-IB for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjTx-0000ZQ-3z; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from lns-bzn-32-82-254-31-120.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.31.120]:46342 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjTp-00078G-My; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:23:49 -0400 Original-Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DAE4F1A603C1; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 14:23:47 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 1 Jun 2020 04:31:42 -0700") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251728 Archived-At: Hi Stefan, Stefan Kangas writes: > My proposal is therefore simply to wait with adding the menu entry until > we know more about the way forward for "Non-GNU ELPA", its relation to > MELPA and so on. There is ample time before Emacs 28.1 is released to > consider it again. But this is just my personal opinion, of course. I'd rather detangle both issues: one is to promote the fact that users can customize `package-archives' to what they need, another one is what sources Emacs should promote. I'll let Eli decide, of course. > Another thing, which I failed to bring up in my previous email. If I > understand correctly, you propose to put "List available packages" after > "Customize package sources". This seems to suggest that the package > system is not usable until after you customize it. Am I missing > something here? If not, should we perhaps change that order? No, you're right, "List available packages" should probably come first. -- Bastien