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From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:59:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ft377q0u.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83turofw8r.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:05:40 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:23:06 +0000
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> I'd like to keep the Windows package using the default options as far as
>> possible, mostly because I am lazy and because it means that the windows
>> package updates when ever the defaults do.
>
> It's your call.  I just envision many users to expect native-comp
> support and asking why isn't it there.

No, you misunderstand me. I would plan to make Emacs-28
--with-nativecomp. But if I am doing this for the windows build, it is
reasonable to assume that other packagers will be doing for their
builds. If all that is true, it would make sense to me for it to be the
default.



>
>> Currently, we have
>> 
>> --without-dbus --without-compress-install
>> 
>> The latter is so the documentation works without gzip. The latter is
>> because we don't normally have dbus available. I am not sure why either
>> of these needed (i.e. why they are not the default on windows).
>
> The gzip thing is again your call (having gzip in the package is no
> big deal, IMO).  Dbus is not really useful on MS-Windows, so IMO it
> makes no sense building with it.

We've been down this road before. I could add gzip and I am happy to
consider this. But what other tools do we add. What about aspell
(or equivalent), so we can spell check? Git so we can version? If I add
them, then we get more "out-of-the-box" behaviour. But where do we stop.

Actually, for both of those, I'd rather see Emacs depend on their
respective libraries. Magit is widely reported to be usuable on Windows;
libgit integration might work around this. Anyway, getting off-topic.

Phil



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-11  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-09 19:57 [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 21:31   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  8:49     ` Arash Esbati
2021-01-10 15:19       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 16:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:23       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 19:20           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 19:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 20:52           ` `gzip` dependency (was: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted) Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11  3:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 10:00               ` `gzip` dependency Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 14:59               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11 15:15                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-20 19:29             ` [feature/internal-msys] thoughts of a more function windows package Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 12:36               ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 16:11                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 18:22                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:44                   ` phillip.lord
2021-01-23  2:51                     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:53                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-21 14:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 16:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 20:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 21:37                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22  7:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 16:14                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22 17:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 22:13                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-24 22:56                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-24 23:34                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25  0:12                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-25 15:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:49                                     ` chad
2021-01-25 19:57                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:42                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 22:13                                         ` chad
2021-01-25 22:28                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26  3:26                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:01                                 ` Richard Copley
2021-01-25 21:17                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  3:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  5:43                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  6:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  7:37                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  9:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-01-27 14:55                                             ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 18:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-26 10:43                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-03 11:34               ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-20  9:25                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-20 14:38                   ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-21 15:51                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:11                       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-24 11:46                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 13:27                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:19                     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-21 23:03                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-22 19:44                         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-22 14:55                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:59           ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2021-01-11 15:21             ` [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 18:29               ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:36   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 16:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:34       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:51   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10  3:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:09     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:06       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:47         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 11:01           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11 16:29             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 17:21               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10 15:14   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 17:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 20:47 ` Alan Third
2021-01-09 21:33   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  0:04     ` Alan Third
2021-01-10  3:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:43 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12  6:01   ` Corwin Brust
2021-01-12  9:48     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12 10:27       ` Corwin Brust

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