From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:26:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87ft1u360t.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tuqbft57.fsf@telefonica.net> <87im6rndo0.fsf@gnus.org> <87v9aqn5eq.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1len1j9.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24407"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 19:27:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCRXX-0006Cz-FC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:27:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCRXW-0006L4-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:27:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33622) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCRWx-0005u9-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:26:33 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:56570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCRWu-0007iP-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:26:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=f/NsVudMpGyIno4rgNKZQoa1NORPGGk81vwmyh5vMZA=; b=Mv06E/gcCDyWKPGSXabS/kvHzT XtpRbTUvBTEXkwmyu/9c+IVBPEhBTF59P+Ku1forWP49xN0+2C0idHyS7iGeIS9LLTj/jUjcfoNKf +aQYpjXktA4FKIb2kXRcwx/AP0oDHpCsYWgXzkpjkPPusP6DwsQUitRZqyEfBn1J+IzQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCRWe-0002uu-FL; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:26:24 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEX34KL315Xct43U omifbUlgPy0QCwopFhP////xvBLAAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+UCERIZFfFHeeYAAAGy SURBVDjLlZRBcqwgEIYhuQANlX3AefsZ25TrDCbuo2EOkBIOkIxcP8BERU0WrxeU8vF3Qzc0IYz8 bgAKgnHgMgy3T5AAAUgp42caEpAL4AuQNxrB5DPzTyNgVdM0GlFgM9uZAmHMWO/ee8Sn0U72QaPi 1Xvfnxl78NFmwNirdb4/3h3bMD0uCkKMdQM+Utb+LM+Ad2U4/+Fid+CiY2LqBRAawVfZlkciwGzB G3k6FUyI9XYJM5/wAnca/tkMJEUHDQugtVtXHSATujBrEFLS8eIkdDXuAXBErGwOUhI7yVXIYQ5i rsI5QqGKjYJGMJw447iLQYx75oQimt123RtnFFWdx0gK2wtChKw3wUNpuwarF212u7LXpahrEGo7 V3UNtvY3IAvwa0Bn4LbByV8gniO58tsY7L8U6VKvFNe0IAc3xVVfRp+5Gm3Kies1tuO4KIY6JsvH edWOmavPg/Pvl2uDJRR1Hvz5MDThBYZ5jm0GnFKdKEoMnaDA9HwSADOo+5ILqQSAwNpPwaHSqgg3 EUNkpcr0qM+pAXAouZrtpzFEAEDjODUIFvtC+J1WZBYB/wYUHx4fuN2sDgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpj cmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMi0xN1QxODoyNToyMSswMDowMIhEe6IAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIw MjEtMDItMTdUMTg6MjU6MjErMDA6MDD5GcMeAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Cristina's _Disco Clone_: "Disco Clone (Disco Mix)" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2021 11:12:28 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265037 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > [ BTW, the better course of action in those cases is of course to mark > those commands obsolete and derive from special-mode (or at least to > align the code&behavior as much as possible with that of > special-mode). ] Indeed. >> I'd planned on writing a little essay for the lispref manual about this, >> once I'd gotten some more experience, because it's not immediately >> obvious what's the right thing to do until you've evaluated a few >> instances. > > Great, looking forward to it. BTW, I think you can already put > something in it and refine it later on; for the benefit of other people > who might want to help the tagging process. I've written up a new node about this stuff now. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no