From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:59:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87ft1stdqp.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87czwzfn9p.fsf@telefonica.net> <87eehfnd83.fsf@gnus.org> <1fb773f6-1480-53ce-08ae-1f7d0ba23428@yandex.ru> <87k0r637k4.fsf@gnus.org> <80e8c434-888d-23c5-13f0-c513bbf13ee4@yandex.ru> <8735xtznrh.fsf@gnus.org> <70fd2374-23ea-1c03-a4e4-97a370a41acf@yandex.ru> <87h7m9wjvl.fsf@gnus.org> <878s7kutzl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0w2qaf.fsf@gnu.org> <87zh00tevr.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8gg2pq9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19079"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 19 14:00:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lD5Ob-0004sn-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:00:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43974 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD5Oa-00058g-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:00:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD5Nf-0004at-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 07:59:35 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD5Nc-0000Af-Mh; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 07:59:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5tWA/qNwCrWkgjDoo25LFZkjPaGAnE9sfYt/5nRhZ/k=; b=LocNBeGsuMRuhXxuataFtb62J0 MoLHekPhwK0XLpVeEDkeKQCcePcGmSfulz0681WDPiaVO0kNnqHRHZpMA/ZyAgH3cAMuRSzqhf1r6 IeR/dnRiW6grykCRRBTjzs2xg7pOE1e0VX/s55LvfSLh2dqo2CNKrTGifpjvqsKFSNtk=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lD5NX-0002BG-K6; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:59:30 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUgGBVVQCm1h0vv 4cT////s5sKAAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UCEwwxAQpxRcAAAAGRSURBVDjLbZPrtYQw CITBCiA2IKSCNf33dnnl4TnXH7uaz8xMAAEAsIn9AjMyw3Eh9wKEDOR3BdoIgLaBQZDJ/oPfJ2i2 yOKaxD2BaXHK4VQaTwEXweC2A+8CyGoGBfx5jEG5VdRWiVam8eadqmaeiGuZxi/f0TEkSJhbpvIG 2/vDPIKDaQFw2e0GyyJjCM969WWR91z1gG0RJ3rnKRwQHFoLhAWmLpWJnZHALWaD6E4TO4mDB+du vMokpF5aIA4lFSuVKiL1qWXgyQa5LM/AXmF1JR+By6LwtQOrKYVMc4+qiu8Q4Gyy2C/BNiGoqE9j XFUJANlYUdlVyaVg1thnlz7Lh16rpiJqD1mVnCxL64MgTTna+M5emXbTvJ4yqbGpfo/omQdOb5QP uANQpTpAaO2vZ4NoNq+utr5ABC4hYNUFIvAcj8baJ/iYYEx9jdgxajndb43YpfkZz01mo1k8AviA PlSir1Yg+uzwZa+lnsA+yvjU2qzmAiy+IJxgudsMqb/tYmvgC5BNGCH8d+GR5Q+YxUi4JPu+VAAA ACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMi0xOVQxMjo0OTowMSswMDowMCI1xp8AAAAldEVYdGRh dGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDItMTlUMTI6NDk6MDErMDA6MDBTaH4jAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Kate Bush's _Lionheart_: "Fullhouse" In-Reply-To: <83o8gg2pq9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:42:38 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265244 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > What I mean is this: we do sometimes mark mode-specific commands as > autoloaded, for the reason I explained. Unlike what you said, which > is that most things that we autoload are NOT mode-specific. I think you're just saying the same thing I did? I said that most commands that are ;;;###autoloaded aren't mode-specific. You say that some ;;;###autoloaded commands are mode-specific. I think we're in violent agreement here, unless you somehow interpret "most" as being "all". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no