From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add hints to documentation of car and cdr for (e)lisp newcomers - take 2 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:34:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87fswgry8y.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8735shrl57.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <83v95c7v3v.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl74evd7.fsf@gnus.org> <83tukw7u20.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30438"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: asjo@koldfront.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 06:35:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3t6F-0007j6-SH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:35:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3t6E-0000q7-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3t5G-0007ny-0l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:41352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3t5E-0007Wt-J9; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:34:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jld9bXchJE8kTPUFoJExTHZ52dmFgPcLWfZ1KuYHe9Q=; b=px43Ijq8FeQpa+rWj/iTDfZvtt dKSoc0yphYzbhHyZwW5STAKl7hWXponh7gDpBaMhgvZY2PUCbTclauS0lF1/pOXGX85+RcHzJtaQK xdKhKwx1dFSjd6L2icflgJLPpfDGPrS2uydP7TFtv5Tuh6YOcNWTBntmhB2MtF68vMG4=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3t54-0003jv-Az; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:34:40 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUFBAsPESopFRpd FB/PKzbVXp1JT0PdtUy7vMOUDhpBiiEhJFk/XKJckM/////cWtUyAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+UHDwQfGlcvs+8AAAFRSURBVDjLY2CAAAEG+gEmYyVlBWwSLKEhoQ7YJFSAEk5YzElgS04z NoByGYGeYAKz2CrawLQgQi0jVKIMrLHcGc0otrQkMFXuiSLcXgGzaoonsjkM7eWwANNENarchQGL hKYlzJEMSgxKSkgeczFggASFiQtKkIAkIFZMmYmQYFJSYALqFgC7QokRoZzTBRQ8TDNBwADZHLCE ANMEJSVNYyQJJSUmMJcJSDApCiAkVq2C2pSAFkIEJTCS0LZEKEMBTWL3bqhRBgw4gLERugh3Nshe prQ0QSAQQIpYnt6LoGi5c/YMEN65i+QIQQFpaRj3zA0U1+09cQDmljM4JBjgcQ0G0jIbEOwbG5D1 MOyIhkl0oAbOjmCYxF1UHfCwYhRCDzWYxG50CcaNG8GUIKbSjbjCkYFRgBG7BYyCikIK2CTE0tLS ErBJCCoJauNwLB0BAObeQfYY7VR9AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTA3LTE1VDA0OjMx OjI2KzAwOjAwOxnKwgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wNy0xNVQwNDozMToyNiswMDow MEpEcn4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Squarepusher's _Be Up A Hello_: "Oberlove" In-Reply-To: <83tukw7u20.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:13:11 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271233 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The doc strings could say something terse like "The `car' is usually the >> first element in LIST, and the `cdr' is usually the rest of LIST" >> perhaps? > > Fine with me, although I'm not sure it would help if the reader really > doesn't know about these. Yeah, perhaps punting to the manual is the better strategy here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no