From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding major or popular language modes to Emacs distribution Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 14:30:16 +0000 Message-ID: <87fsutzlon.fsf@posteo.net> References: <875yvqa3qv.fsf@ypei.me> <87czpy1nyu.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfyuozmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o89hznqy.fsf@posteo.net> <831r6doepi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33074"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hi@ypei.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 16:31:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzN3-0008QF-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:31:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzN1-0006pp-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:31:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzLj-0005y8-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:30:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:38247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzLg-00088e-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:30:22 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26319240027 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:30:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1630161018; bh=T4May9Kbt2TQlhUBlWi7Y3aBBeDviTBRIep10V/r5UU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=JYxvo7CpQE2TCSYfge5Z9G7X7thXuQhQZlkz/Kji7a325TidhZm3KA2QXTd5DvMkw Gcp7d6p/7h9D474/24SwdA1jvorPyzGkmh/DVRO5j6sgMYIsoEnDnG+hYdKfb8N2fJ HJw8LcaZOv2kpYKKoJlcWmUHsapgtbzLCYvK64PsHI1aQjFOEDil9CWzhwjEdlNmMa Ds16g+1+NAY8uwhghwJWQ5itimYMf62yuQFjYOkbkB2KqVRmr5JOS7SfjU32uP/sM8 7EegABfq4YFs/O0vZWXkGyLGWh6tVNklz2C090UZlKRa06kR+/ZixODExfUv5qhhgm KsWBU2XteHk8A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4GxfBK3QYBz9rxN; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:30:17 +0200 (CEST) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: <831r6doepi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:56:25 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273309 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Another issue that already exists with major modes included in Emacs is >> that they often differ in insignificant but annoying ways. When >> comparing the binding C-c C-c in python-mode, scheme-mode and >> prolog-mode, one respectively finds a send-buffer, compile-defun command >> and a keymap. I can only imagine that with more and more languages in >> Emacs itself, this issue would get worse (this of course isn't solved by >> distributing the code in ELPA, but one would imagine that core-code >> should be a bit more consistent). It might make sense to extend >> prog-mode by additional generic modes like compiled-prog-mode, >> interpreted-prog-mode, interactive-prog-mode, etc. to make it easier to >> define and customize language modes. > > We should definitely make the PL modes more consistent wrt the basic > key bindings. But having sch packages in ELPA doesn't help solving > this problem, because it's an orthogonal issue, right? Yes, I was jut mentioning that if there ever were a push to include more major modes in Emacs, that something like this might be worth considering. -- Philip Kaludercic