From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion for improving ergonomics of repeat-maps: define-repeat-map Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 11:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87fsthnmpv.fsf@gnus.org> References: <874katproz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7etsjxx.fsf@gnus.org> <446cdb8d-7075-4942-bfbe-74653dd32a03@www.fastmail.com> <875yudqjwi.fsf@gnus.org> <878rz9gnxw.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13277"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 11:52:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXKdz-00039s-Jd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 11:52:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXKdy-00011j-Hk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 05:52:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXKbb-0006bs-M7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 05:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:46670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXKba-00021W-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 05:49:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zRzCs5ce/F0QwM1yyskmvk6sFbMWw3gVW6WZWGvtWM0=; b=IVDZfvJfEE981z4XU8hR4NL39S C4ybGy3FvLDVCdjCOi69I05eoH1/h+hx46XxSJA80w1UMjvuyLZbTVbl7Wb1iv44VBW0CIEU3KrkV vcAuqceG0TINSAPrHMaT6bVn8W9l+At0nTtmOXl5nf5IQLEaEywcKlBJijTaf37CZIm4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXKbV-0001JD-4T; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 11:49:51 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEX7bDxOZ1OdqVDV c0b/////GX2jAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UKBAkTMXBv1UAAAAGVSURBVDjLdZOJsYUg DEUjNGBIA4INgPTf279Z0Lf9zDg6OWS7QSLixjRK3Tc2K3POTrAsdFGlxMnBiUddlKS1dozO2YG+ JDHRaGaFCY7KZRNN/AB8Vt4Ty7bDpeAyt4MDhwEq+ggAQ2u8Uy4ZJ4aCdIOKbpKgw1EVtFq8CABG QmnS5gDCcJBtBHu9gfofGFx/g9yHgjoWKKUWDALdDFjM8Q2yAiGdQ0EzsKl+mJw7PQMOXQFm3KCL gah+KkAyjQjgId3BJlDLU3lIFQfptDkdaAyzAzK5F5g0xwLTTTuxyKSzko+iV0WBXhel2uxJcSVW XvQ/repxa+jVPRsuR6EUwOrotm0sPDkAzl7NiqmimXfflwFLDZ+1GIvSz2YLxcWxLoS2AEUB0jsY UR0N7ewgyQcQA4f+Dib7Armw3xorriCKX7zE0Tq0RifiMDhk4nfqn0BcPgnPA9gV7yFvN3AMP3uV vhZiB6KRw5XmB/RXcC2QNMcD4me3iAXEr+I3KFja4BtcD7i90e4N6hsoLxHtNtPtt/0BL0RR8q+q zVgAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTAtMDRUMDk6MTk6NDkrMDA6MDABPsA4AAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTEwLTA0VDA5OjE5OjQ5KzAwOjAwcGN4hAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Sacred Paws's _Run Around The Sun_: "Other Side" In-Reply-To: <878rz9gnxw.fsf@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2021 04:05:15 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276162 Archived-At: Adam Porter writes: > I'm confused about a small detail, though: it seems that define-keymap > allows keyword/value pairs inline with the key/binding pairs, but > defvar-keymap requires the keyword/value pairs to be in a list, and an > empty one when none are given. The manual entry doesn't seem to cover > this difference. Doesn't the manual document the syntax of both of these? But I guess it's a bit confusing how the syntaxes are similar but different? I went back and forth a number of time on the syntax -- define-keymap is a function, so it can't do the function-line macro syntax that defvar-keymap can (which is better). But having the first argument of define-keymap be a list (which would be preferable in most ways) just looked awkward. (define-keymap (list :full t) ...) But I'm open to changing it if it's too confusing the way it is now. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no