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From: "Feng Shu" <tumashu@163.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Any new method to deal with Emacs Fonts settings puzzles nearly every Chinese emacser?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 15:17:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsrz6wb0.fsf@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0hbw80c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:45:07 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:14:39 +1300
>> From: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
>> Cc: tumashu <tumashu@163.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> On 2021-11-14 04:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > On GUI frames Emacs takes the width of each character in pixels from
>> > the font that is being used.
>> 
>> Potentially Emacs could provide a defcustom mapping of fonts to minimum
>> character widths, and if the actual width of any character is less than
>> the customized minimum then the (larger) minimum width is used instead
>> (I guess padding either side of the character).
>> 
>> I've no clue whether this is practical -- I know very little about 
>> fonts.
>
> This could be done, but as I already asked up-thread: how will the
> user know what value to give to the defcustom?  Especially if Emacs is

Try from 1px to 100px, until align properly :-), we find proper size
Chinese fonts by same way :-)

> using more than one pair of fonts, due to several important features

"1 Chinese char width = 2 * ascii char width" only meanful in "table"
style environment, for example: org md table, gnus, org-agenda ....
In most case, it can not use many fonts.


> using non-default faces?  And even with the default face, what happens
> if the user does "C-x C-+"?

This is the most case, as for "C-x C-+", we just do not use it, or
rewrite to a new function.


As Chinese emacser users, we just expect align proper *in most case* :-)

>
> I feel that I don't understand the issue well enough, because it
> sounds strange that Emacs needs to invent a solution for a problem
> that was probably already solved umpteen times in other programs (and
> I don't mean terminal emulators, I mean GUI programs).  I very much

I do not know, maybe other GUI programs less use aligned text to create UI.

> doubt that those other applications provide such a user option, so
> some more sensible solution must exist.

-- 




  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-14  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-13 14:36 Any new method to deal with Emacs Fonts settings puzzles nearly every Chinese emacser? tumashu
2021-11-13 14:49 ` tumashu
2021-11-13 15:03   ` tumashu
2021-11-13 15:32     ` Any " Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 16:19       ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 16:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 19:35           ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 20:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 23:38               ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  0:28                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-11-14  7:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  7:51                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-14  9:07                       ` Werner LEMBERG
2021-11-14  9:38                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-15  7:20                           ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2021-11-14  7:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  7:36                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-14  8:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  8:24                       ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  9:41                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-14 11:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14 11:57                           ` Po Lu
2021-11-15  0:36                       ` tumashu
2021-11-15  0:48                       ` tumashu
2021-11-15 12:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-15 12:47                           ` Po Lu
2021-11-15 13:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 16:04   ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 16:12   ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 16:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 19:33       ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 19:54         ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 20:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 23:31             ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  6:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  7:03                 ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 20:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-13 23:29           ` Feng Shu
2021-11-13 23:14   ` Phil Sainty
2021-11-14  0:02     ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  0:18       ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  7:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  7:54           ` Po Lu
2021-11-14  8:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  9:43               ` Po Lu
2021-11-14  6:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  7:17       ` Feng Shu [this message]
2021-11-14  8:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14  1:12   ` Po Lu
2021-11-14  1:52     ` Feng Shu
2021-11-14  7:55     ` Eli Zaretskii

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