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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proportional fonts in the mode line (one month test)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:20:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsrj27ep.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee63306c-07cb-377b-bb3e-9738fc434488@inventati.org>


Manuel Uberti <manuel.uberti@inventati.org> writes:

> On 25/11/21 13:39, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> Manuel Uberti <manuel.uberti@inventati.org> writes:
>> 
>>> Just to let you know, changing the default font to this:
>>>
>>> (custom-set-faces '(variable-pitch ((t (:family "Ubuntu")))))
>>>
>>> Makes it look better than what I see on emacs -Q.
>> Could you post some screenshots?  Here's -Q on Debian/bookworm:
>> With your setting:
>> Just looks smaller to me, not better.
>> 
>
> It depends on which font you like more. I prefer the second screenshot with the
> Ubuntu font.

I think this is the crux of the matter - in the end, it will come down
to personal taste aesthetics. We are unlikely to find a configuration
which fits all tastes. However, very important to try this test to
identify the issues and see if we can fix them to allow more choice for
the user and make it easier to exercise that choice.

Personally, I use a very large font and I like the variable pitch fonts
for the mode line and header lines (actually, I also like them in
buffers which are 'pros' rather than code and really only want fixed
width for code buffers). It has been very difficult to find a fixed and
variable pitch fonts which are able to work well together, especially at
larger sizes and sticking with free/libre fonts. A lot of trial and
error and willingness to accept some level of ugliness in some
situations.

The big challenge has been in getting consistency. This can be
particularly challenging due to some packages and themes inheriting from
different faces in some interesting combinations.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-25 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-24 13:53 Proportional fonts in the mode line (one month test) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 13:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 14:12   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 14:16     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 14:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 14:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 14:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 15:00             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 15:12               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 17:01                 ` Crash with --enable-checking and some glyphs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 17:55                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-11-25 12:51                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 13:09                       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-25 13:39                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 14:36                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-11-25 14:39                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 14:51                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 15:02                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-25 15:11                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 15:36                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-25 16:03                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 16:18                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-26 12:14                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 15:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 12:18                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 12:50                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 14:30                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 15:00                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 15:04                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 16:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27  8:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27 14:04                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27 15:12                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27 15:25                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-28  0:41                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-27 21:28                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-27 21:31                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27 22:01                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-28  7:21                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 13:55                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-29 14:01                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 15:23                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-11-25 21:29                   ` Gregor Zattler
2021-11-26 13:01                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-27  0:18                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-24 18:49                 ` Proportional fonts in the mode line (one month test) Uwe Brauer
2021-11-24 19:12                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 19:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25  0:52                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-25 12:42                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 12:41                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25  1:01               ` Po Lu
2021-11-24 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 14:44   ` Manuel Uberti
2021-11-24 16:25 ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-11-24 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-11-24 16:50   ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 17:09     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-11-24 17:18       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 17:26         ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 17:18       ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 16:49 ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 16:55   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 17:32     ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 16:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-24 16:58   ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-24 17:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 17:26     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 17:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 17:58         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 18:42           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25 12:37             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 13:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-24 17:55       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-24 18:57         ` Manuel Uberti
2021-11-25 12:39           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 14:04             ` Manuel Uberti
2021-11-25 22:20               ` Tim Cross [this message]
2021-11-24 19:20     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-24 16:51 ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-24 17:36 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-24 17:39   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25  0:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-25  0:39   ` Po Lu
2021-11-25  1:48     ` Jim Porter
2021-11-25 13:29       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 14:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25 19:41         ` Jim Porter
2021-11-25 23:04           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-26  2:44             ` Jim Porter
2021-11-26 17:07               ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-27  0:18               ` Po Lu
2021-11-26  4:53             ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-26  5:04             ` Po Lu
2021-11-26 12:35             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27 21:50               ` Jim Porter
2021-11-25  7:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25  7:59       ` Po Lu
2021-11-25 13:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 13:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25 14:05       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 13:19         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25  6:26 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-11-25  8:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25  9:00     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-25 13:33   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25  9:06 ` Simen Heggestøyl
2021-11-25 13:33   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-25 14:17     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 14:52 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2021-11-29 15:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 15:11     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01  5:59 ` Jim Porter
2021-12-01  8:26   ` Davide Masserut
2021-12-01 12:30 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-01 13:41   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 13:46     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-01 13:54       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 14:19         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-01 14:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 14:45             ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-03  3:09               ` João Pedro de Amorim Paula
2021-12-03 11:45                 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-04  5:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-04  6:24                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 13:04                 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-05 20:46                   ` James Cloos
2021-12-05 22:06                   ` João Pedro de Amorim Paula
2021-12-01 15:00       ` Yuri Khan
2021-12-01 15:08         ` Eric S Fraga

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