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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280810 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter >> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:32:08 -0800 >> >> That said, I forgot to mention the most obvious case where the default >> Emacs configuration already changes the width of elements of the U:--- >> thing: the newline indicator. For example, DOS newlines are indicated >> via U(DOS)---. (Unless you're on a Windows/DOS system, that is.) >> >> I use single-character indicators so that it's easier to cycle through >> them without clicking on the wrong thing. The default is probably easier >> to understand for new users, but I find it pretty annoying. Switching to >> icons here would be a nice improvement if they were all the same width. > It was deliberately designed to annoy and attract attention, because I > was told back then that users might otherwise miss an indication > that's telling them the file has an unusual (a.k.a. "foreign") EOL > format. If this is no longer an issue nowadays, we could change the > default to be one-character no matter what is the platform. FWIW it saved me from checking in files with the wrong type of EOL a few times today. So I think it is still a relevant problem.