From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Native compilation on Windows, was Re: Bootstrap Compilation Speed Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:56:44 +0000 Message-ID: <87fspmn0rn.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <86wnj18f7w.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <65b2a18bc1a597333b42d35a2717dc33@russet.org.uk> <86lezg95ud.fsf_-_@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83a6fwysb3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10576"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, corwin@bru.st, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 11:09:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9OxY-0002Un-Ds for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:09:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9OxX-0001VO-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:09:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9OuS-0007lX-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:06:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [78.129.138.227] (port=58501 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9OuJ-0002ZH-RJ; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:06:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID :Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oyzw0uuOpZ0DddL81KopqnY0ZP4MpFe4SzT8pt509BQ=; b=HfUsH+tenacUuwOpV5xljy3ZH4 QbKCQg3kEicBrS0UYWTW6Cy0XA+/b6zyWCv/WhXfe8FAPjl6IEkrUhoeiKsn5r8ejTgIdnu816pIv TlIyttJjrYRtfT0cu9AF22zLGhPFK1ZEFO0H13cmbGcffgdMaRJFNzK05Q0e+hVXYE7JNtmvA34C3 H6JFkUDVdOcxcM407MloJ2kS49s2jfHAUR5rCkFNCOCd0wcII81pJgiBGOrgLgice7wZwAPryysSM smY/uJFiqpIZDVyIyrwulRAmmvXxTUgxn6TJ8JbeVdU7kn3oGP3Cftg88hJct/UX1LLKIFkZ59NYL 0vTuj0vQ==; Original-Received: from cpc142634-benw12-2-0-cust280.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([81.110.237.25]:38540 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9OuB-00045K-1K; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:06:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83a6fwysb3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 16 Jan 2022 10:54:08 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.129.138.227 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.129.138.227; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284869 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:14:56 +0000 >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk >> Cc: Corwin Brust , Emacs developers >> >> The problem is that native comp needs libgccjit at compile time but >> also at runtime. To make an executable install package like we have >> at the moment essentially means packaging libgccjit. Which means gcc >> and half of the msys2 toolchain. > > We made a point of implementing native-compilation on MS-Windows in a > way that doesn't require such extreme measures. Emacs built with > native-compilation support should be able to run on a Windows system > without GCC and Binutils installed, it just won't be able to > natively-compile any new or modified Lisp files. It will use the > *.elc files instead. > > Or at least that is the theory. Ah, okay. I remember asking about this some time back when I got the impression this would not work. It's a little bit late in the release process to be testing the theory now. The last snapshot is a year old, and that is not native comp. Phil