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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286047 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Potential tangent, but I really don't believe that this consensus was >> influenced by MS-Windows users. Rather, it was formed by people >> generally agreeing that using the primary selection to hold cut text >> made little to no sense. > Because there was no "Cut" back there, AFAIR, there were only > selections. Windows didn't have selections (still doesn't), so they > impregnated us with the clipboard. IIRC we had such a cut menu item in Emacs since some time in the early Emacs 19 release cycle. CLIPBOARD was also with us since the beginning of selections, and before that, there were cut buffers (which xterm still uses to this day, and existed since the early days of X.) Thanks.