From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 48ac40e60e: ; Fix last change. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293464 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > What exactly is the problem with the current wording? Can you or > Stefan or someone else point out the actual deficiencies (as opposed > to semi-philosophical considerations)? I thought it was clear the original way Stefan phrased it -- listing all the different types of things it can be leads me to wonder what types aren't in that list.