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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294022 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=86=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B8= =E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AF=8D 24, 2022] Andrea Corallo wrote: > > =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> I wonder whether anybody has looked into switching to a different build >>> system? >> >> Long time ago I volunteered to create a CMake-based build system and >> even experimented a bit to the point of dumping emacs. Almost all of the >> work consisted on implementing the platform checks. >> >> CMake has the advantage of supporting multiple "backends" for the build >> phase, and `ninja' provides a significant speed-up over `make' on large >> projects. > > Using ninja would translate into an hard dependency on python and I > don't think this is acceptable. Also I'm not really sure ninja is > faster than make. FWIW, there is a C implementation of ninja called samurai: https://github.com/michaelforney/samurai. There is also a C implantation of meson called muon: https://sr.ht/~lattis/muon/.