From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Browning Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:32:02 -0500 Message-ID: <87fsg6m5zx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10783"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 20:33:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of3mS-0002ai-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:33:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60574 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of3mR-0002K6-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of3l3-0000bN-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:32:09 -0400 Original-Received: from defaultvalue.org ([45.33.119.55]:37462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of3ky-0006I8-G7; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: rlb@defaultvalue.org) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2601E20174; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:32:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BEA8C14E081; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:32:02 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.33.119.55; envelope-from=rlb@defaultvalue.org; helo=defaultvalue.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296674 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > My recommendation is to use the default JIT manner until and unless > actual problems are reported by users. [...] > There's no profit, IME. There are only disadvantages: you are in > effect fighting against the Emacs defaults, for reasons that are > purely theoretical. If I understand your meaning in both of these cases, I'll just note that for the things we've been discussing here, I believe we've already had complaints/requests from Debian users. Whether that's significant enough to warrant accommodation is another question, but that may not leave the concerns theoretical, strictly speaking. And for what it's worth, I can see both sides of the argument(s), i.e. I can understand why upstream, it could be that on balance, those concerns won't (and maybe shouldn't) be considered sufficient when balanced against other considerations. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org GPG as of 2011-07-10 E6A9 DA3C C9FD 1FF8 C676 D2C4 C0F0 39E9 ED1B 597A GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4