From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:04:09 +0000 Message-ID: <87fs4hhijq.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87r0oftgye.fsf@posteo.net> <87350vt1wz.fsf@posteo.net> <871qgen1ln.fsf@posteo.net> <87edke4mou.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmy6kuan.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmy6w070.fsf@posteo.net> <87zg2sjleg.fsf@posteo.net> <87pm3nlbm7.fsf@posteo.net> <87zg2ri9g9.fsf@posteo.net> <87bkf7b7ls.fsf@posteo.net> <87v8dfi6zy.fsf@posteo.net> <877cpvb361.fsf@posteo.net> <87pm3mj0ot.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <87v8de9qel.fsf@posteo.net> <87pm3mgj8d.fsf@posteo.net> <87edk1ok5p.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20547"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 17 16:04:47 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qWdcD-0004t2-D3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:04:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWdbk-0003El-Pu; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWdbj-0003EL-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:04:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWdbg-0004IB-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:04:14 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39A9E240029 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:04:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1692281050; bh=6ZxXZoAmGETByt1oL/bAXXz3UBf++2juQrH/Dk++/6k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=kx5mKYsmu2nMbbRuQOMsCb6hUiGvWgbtcEKUT5pknDHf8HkcB7gsWJAllIn8TS/z/ ZxwQsacJzWLpixNPBYQyBxan85Yn6SnVOArGWAHwnOjb+EybHCD6o9Gn3pU/uZ456h 5uIBYYMs12qFfBKRMhUsBZKGoD06g/un2nOvILU1LEcJEEehzZvk61gC0GUthbefrB 02ogXLNJzbZCFzS06MsvzcgFPozCrdTtJYTl2R9VrZN7ruU7ynSPVhyHmrj6uLjWDC g2VuRvZ5sc80El06AY1DaI02Gjo+QIbOlZ1sWRetbHlSoZJL0Mb4pKaejtRJ+CavXv 1qdZRx0MCh3Jg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RRRZK4fMWz9rxF; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:04:09 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87edk1ok5p.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2023 13:32:39 +0000") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308865 Archived-At: Thierry Volpiatto writes: > Hello Philip, > > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> Thierry Volpiatto writes: >> >>> Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> >>>>> No don't worry, helm will work in any cases, thanks. >>>> >>>> OK, in that case I'd prefer to keep it the way it is. >>> >>> Ok, fair enough. >>> >>>>>> Mainly to avoid issues with packages that might place files in the >>>>>> configuration directory, which might hinder the reproduction of bugs. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, maybe, I don't have an example in mind though. >>>> >>>> It might not be the best example, but my package autocrypt generates a >>>> file in the `user-emacs-directory'. If we don't use --init-directory, >>>> the existing file would be re-used. >>> >>> Ok, for such case it is easy to either rename the file temporarily to >>> foo_ori or foo_save or to set the variable handling the file (generally >>> it is not harcoded) to something else. But another issue is if your >>> isolated package needs the history file or tramp file or whatever file >>> ~/.emacs.d is handling; e.g. a package providing completion on history. >>> I still think it is more handy to reuse user-emacs-directory and its >>> elpa directory where the packages are already installed. >> >> How about this patch, that will use a temporary directory when >> `package-isolate' is invoked with a prefix argument (not sure what the >> default should be, I guess reusing `user-emacs-directory' is less >> surprising): > > Yes. > > Isn't these two loop the same? (save one loop) No, because that assumes that we are only interested in the first package descriptor in every package--alist entry, while there might be multiple. > (cl-loop for p in (cl-loop for p in (package--alist) append (cdr p)) > unless (package-built-in-p p) Also, do we want this or wouldn't it be useful to be able to force a built-in package being loaded? > collect (cons (package-desc-full-name p) p) into table > finally return > (list (cl-loop for c in (completing-read-multiple > "Isolate packages: " table > nil t) > collect (alist-get c table nil nil #'string=)) > current-prefix-arg)) > > (cl-loop for p in (package--alist) > for desc = (cadr p) > for name = (car p) > unless (package-built-in-p desc) > collect (cons (package-desc-full-name desc) p) into table > finally return > (list (cl-loop for c in (completing-read-multiple > "Isolate packages: " table > nil t) > append (cdr (alist-get c table nil nil #'string=))) > current-prefix-arg)) > > >> [2. text/x-diff; >> 0001-Add-command-to-start-Emacs-with-specific-packages.patch]...