From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87fs256c96.fsf@web.de> References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83ttqnm4ti.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0lqoo5x.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83msweu76j.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gungi1.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25328"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.10.7; emacs 30.0.50 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 20 08:26:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qtiyD-0006Nn-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:26:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtixV-0005xY-Lz; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 02:26:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtixS-0005x6-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 02:26:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtixQ-0001mT-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 02:26:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1697783159; x=1698387959; i=arne_bab@web.de; bh=NTGMfmyKzUMxBpYD8PXUcLSdllqqLEpy2GXgtjfh400=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:References:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date: In-reply-to; b=jgPlXxgYX3+EqQqXNxcVlrWgrO2iQMN87/jYClkxogHJtSwxvXb2D45+jXKcQ3/P wVJUpmO1bxV1ZESE3eTnN69op3OrtSRIG0c+gCMAKrIuyi//1w3xNY2eVQedlDe1v 32IFVEK7GwcHBvzeFSQ66xPxhfxzGt5B71Ot3SYtl+63R2vN+NVdaktPKsMXhftOt BCth0Bb93hk44z8Q/4oZcSf699gfpfXSBrcgOfJJKBs/+YCcs4DMp02hHM821dL2V hVBD8RRcPO22UTTYLcRfkVwiKDQWBoxHAocU5KyMB1AiDdraYOuREj9J37hnQBVzB FEAMqlcWau1rRQ0U3g== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from fluss ([84.165.22.233]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N6bD0-1raHg90Odi-018IXW; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:25:59 +0200 In-reply-to: <87o7gungi1.fsf@dataswamp.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Fgz8yn9OlQ3+xWx8MxdbB6KCx99OBvnLUS0nmX8O1ygRBpmWTot o1zhCqiA8JngQZkVyY+npyJiCJq2WUSNBT5gbQUcYDLbTppiM2e95TcFn7f2OQhgCVJx0ZD VZgP721av1KJj9sdnXpRFzF3Ka4TZvd0Ye/NpYL70ZO+lP8UEkcseNjjoBOGNwtZnvrdEPN ykheLDBUnF1lXs+D9+njw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:N4SJC+vHZYQ=;Y0jgnp1cP0O72sSmOPgT7lhAgKD edmRJq0ERDjNIj0HxwrmR1pKhcKepN3i7Kp8PbRaJjzLxyC5Ytgbf99Bu7A8n372jRKcRz8z9 nqzMKeLNNATZts5YI+ZJkDqXFn14KQ6JW0m0XnjaS9bk8HwKTy9hn4sGm46yXYScL97d5Ld6v lBggtY6I1LHASLpKi4s/OyjKnJZPA2u5azpYUP1RO6QI0qwSctjA07qU3eXQmI29dq8ufs8eX OVw42/41iWbhYhK39+cNdhiKCMo6vwKjg2zA/7sYFHlEN0WxEzxF0VMk5xKusmrug3yU02fjb /sNS1E8B7sSZNJ3bpxc9KAM7AFzm9EXfZwF8aesrNXpASOZOH41ugJN9dLDA/gfXf9icXMfdJ 2gMCYCionvyDHkZ1G2ObOmsQLyECwTxMVi3knrc0OV1BNTiFPn+LuCHiRhTsUq311RuIlSf5I 8Fkx00cY2l2GfP3Zlx9WvDThHoPARsGf3Rd4THg6YHp6iVjNoq8Qk+HnQzJCI7NhdGKggGdrh zU7tsvYMPZmEZKEn9lbhOtcBvUvkfTBj3YVzc6w0y3uyRdYto6b7gZvH5iey3+3EUfvYYyy5A xLAvttaNa+gJ6HBpj1JYJBJrDMTq6g3PWcRtMS+htCsKmXo0SEbr32RG3BGljV3pE8ogeRJHz H2WIKq1E51polGqdr9Y2nQZq7SIhhMbSQekwfnFXIWam2LZUOnmCVDKA+kyPpVCwnClj1keDk wr0tzmYXazTE40y256rXhTRSnIMTZUhu34DKjsqX6xxDcHF0L+MZmualwuh2R0VABbteYNTT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.4; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311613 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emanuel Berg writes: >> But all this is not really relevant for the code that you >> (or any one of us) write for their own personal use, it is >> only relevant to code contributed to Emacs. > > But we don't know what people who are starting to write Elisp > today for their personal use go on to contribute to Emacs > packages that make it to the ELPAs, or core Emacs for that > matter. That whole distinction does not make any sense to me. I have quite a few things in my .emmacs.d/init.el that are right for me but would not be suitable for core. That starts with (setq gc-cons-threshold (* 100 1024 1024)) ;; Make gc pauses faster by decreasing the threshold again (from the increa= sed initial). (setq gc-cons-threshold (* 20 1024 1024)) ;; speed up reading from external processes (setq read-process-output-max (* 1024 1024)) ;; 1mb and continues through my exwm setup, reaching key-chords and interactive ido preview. 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