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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319874 Archived-At: Jeremy Bryant writes: > How about selecting 1 package to work on bundling by ease of > implementation. > > For example, Philip's auto-header package is on ELPA, and Philip has > ELPA knowledge. Philip, WDYT? > > (Reviewing the feature branches they are constructed in terms of general > examples, it may help to have a concrete single package to work on bundling?) And what of us sods who must build Emacs from the source code repository? It would be awful if features bundled in source tarballs were to be absent from, for instance, the Android redistributables: https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs and downloading dozens of ELPA repositories before each build, not to mention repairing the inevitable incompatibility from time to time, is not an enviable prospect in any sense.