From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 16:07:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87frrtehkc.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87o76ik616.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20655"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:5bR2y6/7BAWS9y8FLzEqw7fLVOo= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 28 16:31:27 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4vn-0005EE-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 16:31:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4v9-0001Lw-4R; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4Yc-00062t-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4YX-0007bD-DC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4YV-0003gN-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 16:07:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:30:31 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322168 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: >>> Indexing in an everyday task ... >> >> Like writing? > > Yes, like writing. Referring to elements within a collection > (like arrays, lists, or strings) using numerical indices, is > a fundamental concept in programming. Despite its > simplicity, proper understanding and handling of indexing > are crucial for writing correct and efficient code. > Indexing errors, like off-by-one mistakes, are among the > most common bugs in software development. It shows that > developers do require a solid understanding as much as > architects and engineers. Handling indices correctly, > including understanding when to increment or decrement by > one, is a critical skill. These seemingly trivial issues can > lead to significant bugs, from incorrect data processing to > security vulnerabilities. > > The idea that anyone can code to a specific standard without > foundational knowledge is wrong. While many people can learn > to write code at a basic level, developing high-quality > software requires a deeper understanding of algorithms, data > structures, software design, and debugging techniques. > > In fields like architecture and engineering, professionals > undergo rigorous training to understand the principles and > practices necessary to ensure safety, functionality, and > aesthetics in their work. This foundation is not present in > computing today. ... ? :O > But, Emanuel has mentioned a different problem, the unusual > symbol vec that is placed. Someone else said that, I think? > And that there is often complex mix of different ways to do > things, all over emacs, making development very slow paced. It is one of the reasons, yes - part of the "too much freedom" reason :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal